The Podcast

September 18, 2025 There Are No Equal Signs in Biology
Jay Cross interviews me about my new paper, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences (co-authored with Sy Garte and Stuart Kauffman.) Together we explore why “there are no equal signs in biology,” how this revelation redefines medicine as we know it, and the post-computational, post-permission future of healing—with new...
September 15, 2025 Thin Places: Where the space between this world and the next is thinner
Perry describes a series of life-changing "thin place" experiences that shifted his reality. This was presented to Adam Safron's Sapience group, followed by a guided meditation and a Q&A at the end. A further expansion on these ideas is online at perrymarshall.com/ireland. 
August 13, 2025 Beyond Evolution: Purposeful Biology Isn’t Just For Christians Anymore
 Sy Garte's book, Beyond Evolution, is written for the person who is trying to reconcile their deep yearnings for meaning and significance with the longstanding scientific dogma that nature has no purpose. Not only is the tide shifting dramatically inside of secular science, the new discoveries are connecting gaps between...
August 8, 2025 Bridging Evolution: A Conversation Between Intelligent Design and Third Way
What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring Neo-Darwinism, Third Way evolution, and Intelligent Design—discover unexpected common ground while respecting disagreements. Denis Noble (Oxford University, Third Way evolution, www.thethirdwayofevolution.com), Casey Luskin (Discovery Institute, Intelligent Design, www.evolutionnews.org), and Perry Marshall (Evolution 2.0,...
June 21, 2025 What does it mean to truly flourish?
Andrew Briggs began writing the book Human Flourishing just before the COVID pandemic, and then the world went into chaos. Since then, the world has gotten even madder and many people are clutching their smartphones, wringing their hands, managing their anxiety, or merely existing. What does it mean to flourish, and what...
June 11, 2025 When A Christian Insists On A Spiritual Demilitarized Zone
Derek Dearden from the UK and Perry Marshall discuss how to hold deeply held beliefs while also making space for people with widely differing views.
May 9, 2025 Life doesn’t merely obey rules. Life CREATES them.
Tim Howard interviews me and Sy Garte about our new paper with Stuart Kauffman, The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Biological Sciences. Join us for a fascinating discussion about a new revolution underfoot in biology:
April 2, 2025 New Theory & Practice for Cancer – Azra Raza and Michael Levin
Two of my favorite scientists, Michael Levin and Azra Raza with Aastha Jain Simes, put their heads together in this provocative and touching interview. Azra describes the technology of our new company PredictRX that detects cancer at Stage Negative One. We do this with a “Stentinel,” (starts at 15 minutes...
December 20, 2024 Donna Meyers is STILL beating cancer after 35 years
She's 86, yet she looks like she's in her 60s. After 35 years of Myelodysplastic Syndrome, she is still beating the odds every day. In our conversation, she explains her radical outlook and her success under the watchful eye of oncologist Dr. Azra Raza at Columbia University in New York...
August 19, 2024 Irreducible Mind: Why the Current Paradigm is past its expiration date with Edward Kelly
Edward Kelly is a neuroscientist whose research overturns the current popular definition of the mind. We had a fantastic conversation about his non-traditional path in scientific research. He is a scientist at the University of Virginia. 
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