Where did the Universe come from?
Part 1: Einstein’s Big Blunder
100 years ago, Albert Einstein published three papers that rocked the world. These papers proved the existence of the atom, introduced the theory of relativity, and described quantum mechanics.
Pretty good debut for a 26 year old scientist, huh?
His equations for relativity indicated that the universe was expanding. This bothered him, because if it was expanding, it must have had a beginning and a beginner.
Since neither of these appealed to him, Einstein introduced a ‘fudge factor’ that ensured a ‘steady state’ universe, one that had no beginning or end.
But in 1929, Edwin Hubble showed that the furthest galaxies were fleeing away from each other, just as the Big Bang model predicted. So in 1931, Einstein embraced what would later be known as the Big Bang theory, saying, “This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened.” He referred to the ‘fudge factor’ to achieve a steady-state universe as the biggest blunder of his career.
As I’ll explain during the next couple of days, Einstein’s theories have been thoroughly proved and verified by experiments and measurements. But there’s an even more important implication of Einstein’s discovery. Not only does the universe have a beginning, but time itself, our own dimension of cause and effect, began with the Big Bang.
That’s right — time itself does not exist before then. The very line of time begins with that creation event. Matter, energy, time and space were created in an instant by an intelligence outside of space and time.
About this intelligence, Albert Einstein wrote in his book “The World As I See It” that the harmony of natural law “Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.”*
He went on to write, “Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe–a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble.”*
Pretty significant statement, wouldn’t you say?
Stay tuned for tomorrow’s installment: “Bird Droppings on my Telescope.”
Respectfully Submitted,
Perry Marshall
*Einstein quotes are from “Einstein and Religion: Physics and Theology” by Max Jammer
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sir
i’m sorry to bother you coz the question is out of the lecture1
i want to know why is universe expanding (hubble’s law) i mean what compels two astronomical bodies to recede when there is already gravitational attraction
between them
Hi Perry,
Very interesting arguments you make regarding information theory, which I have no doubt you’re more well versed in than I am. However, I have studied linguistics and you’re missing a major example of natural, unconscious coding/decoding. Bees do it all the time when they perform a dance that consists not only of transmitted information, but of information that is actually discrete (though not infinitely expandable the way human language is). A bee’s dance provides an angle relative to the sun along with a distance in two separate maneuvers, which other bees can interpret and follow. Again, you claimed there is no example of a code produced by natural, non-conscious means, but here is a clear example, unless you believe bees are conscious. If you argue that this ability stems from DNA and that my argument is thus circular, yours of course would face the same criticism, since your creator would have to comprise vast amounts of information and a coding system — where are its origins? You see how this is not a winnable point?
Also, you seem to misunderstand how DNA mutations work. Most of them don’t really do much at all; hence, they are neither disastrous nor advantageous. This is because DNA isn’t a “message” the way a sentence or a blueprint is. It’s more like a recipe, since it’s basically encoding a batch of chemicals that will then interact. So it’s not at all like taking a sentence and randomizing one or more of the symbols and noticing that it becomes less understandable.
Like I said, interesting work, but these concerns have all been handily addressed by evolutionary biologists. The mechanisms are generally understood. Good luck in your quest for meaning.
Andrew,
The whole “bee waggle” question is addressed at length on the Infidels discussion board. If bees are conscious, then the dance is produced by intelligence. If bees are not conscious then it’s a derivative of DNA, thus does not give us any helpful information.
Ultimately, as you point out, the information has to come from somewhere. There is NO escaping the origins question, and naturalistic explanations have neither evidence nor inference to support them. And yes I am saying it has to come from a creator. It is the only option left.
The reason most mutations don’t really do much at all is DNA’ redundancy and error correction mechanisms. Saying “DNA is really just a batch of chemicals” is no different than saying your computer is just a batch of chemicals. True enough but that completely denies the linguistic nature of the organisms. And no, these concerns (by that I mean the problems with the “random mutation” theory) have NOT been handily addressed by evolutionary biologists. They have been swept under the rug.
There are some like Shapiro and McClintock who have addressed them, and recognized that evolution is far more sophisticated than previously thought.
Perry
Hi Perry,
I guess I have answers to certain questions in your first mail – ‘Where did the universe come from”. I am going to copy some sentences from your mail where I find that the answers are different, and I am going to key in my answers. Please check them and let me know if you agree with me and if not why?
1.The very line of time begins with that creation event.
Himanth: Yes, I do agree partially on this because per me, for time to come into existence it needs a reference point and the reference point is U. From there the mind projects all events that happened in the past, stored in your memory, to be used for both present and future situations. Time is an illusion created by the mind. Time does not exist even now.
2.Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.
Himanth: I do not agree on this because, there is no order in nature. It is us who are trying to see the order and create a systematic living out of chaos. Nature is not perfect. It is the mind in order to understand nature and accordingly adjust to it, is creating orderliness from disorderliness. If we stop asking why and start asking who is asking all this, who wants to know the answers to all these questions, the ingenuity of the mind will be revealed. This may seem a philosophical paradigm but philosophy again is nothing but science, it is the seperation of both that has been deluding us.
Please visit my website where I have put forward my findings to the philosophical question Who Am I as well as other spiritually inclined questions.
Thanks,
Himanth
this is my site
http://www.alhakika.webs.com
when einstien published his steady state universe theory ,did he not realize the fact that the universe is expanding??.
was he so ignorant about that???
The law of physics as we know them ‘break down’ or in other words ‘do not apply anymore’ when gravity gets really really strong, as was the case close to the ‘beginning’. Why could this ‘beginning’ not have been a ‘rebounce’ from a former state, so time is indeed endless, and there was no reall beginning? Do Einsteins law make this idea an impossibility?
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? -Epicurus, philosopher (c. 341-270 BCE)
Any comments?
Hèctor P. Cabàn-Zeda
Hèctor,
Is giving people unrestricted freedom to make their own moral choices malevolent?
Perry
Every action, good or bad, will invariably produce an effect or more under favourable conditions. The place we live, what the people call ‘universe’, is created by creator(s). But, the creator is not a supernatural being beyond time and space, referred to as ‘God’ (or whatever the name is). The creator is, in deed, the collective minds of all beings on earth. The universe which is ever subject to change is a result of the desires and actions of each and every one on earth (and might include other beings on other earths). I repeat. Every desire and action is a cause of effect, and this effect becomes a cause of another. The power of our minds!
Have you read Collier`s “The secret of Ages”……????? Joey
The universe is nothing but space, and everything within it and what we see including ourselves are distortions of space. Outside the universe there may be matter and only matter but no space.
Therefore god is the universe and further more god is the space. And all of space is like a small air bubble in that which is truly infinite.
And also following on this its not that the universe came out of nothing, its more like the universe diverted itself from everything in a way that only God can and therefore the universe is God.
God is the space that you exist in and the space that is within you and therefore you yourself is but a bit of God.
All the developments for last 400 years is scince were on the material planes but not on metaphysical level . And very few scintists /medical men took at metaphysical level .At one level or other they were prooved unscintific , quacks and what else.It is fact that world non-living or living menifested from simple substance . How much it is simple nobody knows for where one is finished other has took up . So, the knowledge is infinite,and process goes on . read the nature and secreats willcomeout one by one and you will feel that GOD is there . Butifull and keleidoscopic world but without will and organisation by CREATOR is not possible . Greater the acumen best nature explorer you become and feel nearest to THE GOD . HAHNEMANN has done this .
Dear Perry:
I have been following this thread for some time now and many, if not most, of the comments remind me of that famous quote from Alexander Pope: “A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!”
Hèctor
Dr. Zeda: By your comment, are you implying that you actually know more than your posts? Which basically reveals nothing, only questions which, when answered cogently, revereses to more questioning and then, this?
Thus, you seem to know more about this topic then? For how can you measure the littleness of Perry if there was no way to gauge it againt, right? So show us what you’ve got.
Dear Ms. Galford:
Even though I am not certain I follow your line of thought, I will try to answer your queries (as I think I understand them) in the order you present them.
Yes, I know more than my posts show, particularly in the field of Quantum Mechanics. My Ph. D. is in Solid State Physics, which requires me to have studied Quantum Physics in quite some detail. I do not feel, however, that this is the place to launch into a detailed discussion of same (like discussing the origins of Schroedingers’ Equation and its solutions for specific situations) since this would require not only sufficient knowledge of physics but also advanced mathematics and this would probably make it unreadable for most readers. Also, this is in my opinion totally unnecessary since all I was trying to do was show some basic mistakes in some of the posts about the meaning of Quantum Physics.
I admit I am completely baffled by the second sentence in your post. I do not understand a thing!
The second paragraph in your post is, again, quite hazy to me but I shall endeavor to clarify what I think is your point. First, you seem to be somewhat offended by what you perceive as my minimizing Perry’s posts (“littleness” is the word you use). I hasten to assure you that such has never been my intention. I respectfully submit that your perception is not based on a careful reading of my comments which I think are written in plain, clear English, even though English is my second language (Spanish being my first). I am not in the custom of ridiculizing or minimizing the opinions of others merely because I do not share them.
It has been my experience that when I express my views on subjects such a religion, people seem to divide into two groups. One group feels somewhat bothered (and sometimes even offended) by my views being opposite to theirs. This group I generally dismiss since their reaction is evidence of their fanaticism, which implies that no amount of reasoning or evidence will make a dent in their closed minds (In my opinion, minds are like parachutes: They only work right when they open). The second group is caracterized by an overwhelming desire to save my lost soul from burning for eternity in the fires of hell! Their well-meaning concerns notwithstanding, I consider them to be totally unnecessary as well as quite ineffective.
Please, note that I have not classified you in any of the two groups mentioned above. After all, I do not know you!
Cordially,
Hèctor P. Cabàn-Zeda ( A yes!, Ph. D.)
The Big Bang and ‘expanding’ Universe – what I want to know is…. ‘expanding’ into what? What is outside the universe? This leads to the so-called ‘Big Bang theory’. We are told that particles (or something) ‘came together’ at a singulariy, reacted in some way and BOOM!. off we go – Where did these particles come from then? where does ‘Energy’ come from we are told it cannot be created or destroyed…………..so was it not there ‘before’ the big bang and will in not be there after the universe hads’died’. But the big question for me is this business about the causes of the big bang………What I just don’t get is ‘where’ these things that caused the alleged big bang came from…….isn’t that the real starting point?
Victor,
You’ve got it right.
The question you ask is really the point I am making with this site. Time and space come into being at the point of the big bang. Logically this has to have a cause but the cause doesn’t resemble normal physical causes. The event ultimately demands an uncaused cause. I think this strongly infers a Creator.
Perry
could i not also answer this question that it came from other dimensions, other realities ?
and of course we can infinitely ask these questions and will always realize some creative force that is behind it all . . . i simply add the fact that this is not the only dimension, nor the only reality, nor the only existance ; that simultaneously infinite paradigms are occuring … here (since here is all there is — just as now is all there is )
This is awesome. I only discovered this site today. Hope to be able to follow the rather abstruse discussion.
Every thing emanates from the center of the big bang, and what is at the center of the universe? God’s Throne.
this was the last planet that God created before sin, but the bible plainly states that God created worlds.
every did start from one point but not at the same time. nothing came from chaos and nothing can come from chaos.
you believe that the matter came from nothing and that is what the bible teaches as well. God spake and it came into existence. but there was not chaos.
the problem with the big bang is that it is contradictory.
– before the big bang, what existed? i think the answer is nothing.
– if nothing existed then what cause the big bang? i think the answer is something.
– is nothing something? is something nothing?
– witch is harder to believe, creation or Big bang?
contrary to what most people believe we are not smarter that our ancestors, when God created man he was beautiful and perfect just like every thing else that was created.
he did not need books because he never forgot anything.
if we today are so smart how come we cant do figure out how people just 3000 years ago created some of the wonders we have today. but we can predict what happen 15 B years ago.
we are not smarter ins some extent just weaker. and that is exactly what the bible says was going to happen. the Mayan calender is still more accurate than ours today.
they did not have the technology that we have today but they had there own. we just developed a different technology that is all.
the bible long before Cristobal set sail told us that the earth was a round.
the Book of books is the holly Bible. it has never made a mistake.
now how can we prove the validity of the Bible? the answer is “prophecy”
The bible with 100% accuracy has predicted all the word powers of the earth. and that in fine detail.
– the gines of genesis
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/2/105-232K/
– was there a universal flood, what are the scientific proof that it happen?
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/7/102-232K/
– scientific view of creation?
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/6/101-232K/
– what does the boons say?
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/8/103-232K/
what hapen to the big mammals and were did they come from?
http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/9/104-232K/
– what does the boons tell us?
today science may say something and to morrow say something different, so how can we believe science? God give us knowledge so that we can find him not to be lost.
for me it is a great debate between science and history and of religious because many of us still confused of the beginning and where we’ll came from..but for me science has its constant theory on the evolution.
No creation without creator , You give anyname you like .
dear perry
i believe time is a strait line, but certains events make a round journey
in space, this events involve creation, creation of a new human being,
a problem thal a person must solve to go on in his life.if you cant
solve this situation or problem time stops and goes round until
you solve it or live it and you can go on.
thanks
daniel
the ‘fudge factor’ means the cosmological constant,so does it not hold any significance today?
“Fudge Factor” was a constant that Einstein inserted to make the universe static.
“Cosmological Constant” refers to term in the Big Bang analysis that relates to the expansion rate of the universe. It has led to many observations about the so called “fine-tuning” of the universe.
Regarding the spirit you are mentioning, whose spirit could that be? Can you give me some proof?
Thank You!
I think it is the spirit of Jesus. My own personal experiences: http://www.perrymarshall.com/travelogue/india/june-12/
it is written in ancient scriptures of the east (Vedas): there was nothing before time and nothing was there before nothing”.
vedas also say: the universe bagan with a bang (the sound of life: AUM)
They also allude to millenia of cycles of apocalypse and a period of life and then apocalypse again (the day adn nights of brahma)
If all this is true, also alluded by Einstein, then what is the purpose of life. philosophy easily answers it: :it is in the nature (of God).:
and why humans are consious of the fact: it makes us run after the search for truth? there must be a purpose a design in all of this? can sceince ever answer? with all the humanity fighting for survival, politics adn religion etc..
to resolve satisfactorily, to give peace to mind, ancinet eastern civilisations eveloved a philosophy which said: we all look for god, we all try to find him, but we can never define him as he is nothing. he can only be defined by ” neti neti” not this , not this.
however, if, by chance, you know god, you find him, then…atma (huiman energy) becomes paramatma(god) as to know god is to become one with it, and then…..the human becomes divine..a god..and is not in a position to explain it to his fellow human beings because he is god himself now…
this explanation is amazing and gives us peace. sadly, the philosophy didi nto explain the procedure to become paramatam….that was left for the mystics to find…