Today I introduce to you one of the most powerful science presentations I have ever heard.
I listened to Hugh Ross give this presentation on a tape while I was driving down Interstate 88 in Chicago one night. As I listened, light bulbs were firing off in my head all over the place.
So what’s the big deal about this? Here’s what you’ll discover as you listen:
-The delicate balance of vast forces in the universe, necessary for life to exist
-Why planet earth is so extremely special in its ability to support life
-The very measurement of the entire universe in all its magnificence, made possible only within the last 15 years
-A fascinating place where science and theology come together in perfect agreement
Now there’s one more thing I want to tell you about this talk: It was recorded in 1994.
Now why would I give you something called “New Scientific Evidence” if it’s more than 15 years old?
Here’s why: Because unlike most things that old–with only a couple of exceptions, the information Hugh Ross shares here has been shown to be even *more* accurate today than it was back then.
One of the hallmarks of a successful scientific model is that it holds up for years and even decades, even while scholars debate it. I’ve been following Dr. Ross and his work, and virtually every fact he discusses here has been further strengthened and validated by all the physics and astronomy discoveries in the years since.
On this link you’ll find both the audio recording and the printed transcript. You can read it online, print it out, listen on your computer, burn it to a CD, or download this to your iPod. Go here now:
https://evo2.org/hugh-ross-origin-of-the-universe/
Enjoy.
Perry Marshall
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Mr Marshall,
congratulations on your marvelous breakthru. Maybe at last, a stake in the heart of 19c materialism & Darwinian dogma. Thank you!
Your approach thru examining the operations of DNA in evolution was a revelation to me. I think you are right, but have you looked at the broader scope of your insight? I’m not particularly interested in religion, tho driven to distraction by the blind acceptance of Darwinism by so many. I’ve been more interested in the how information technology affects social evolution in history – conclusion, it is the hidden engine. But to reach this point, one has to ditch historical materialism in favor of philosophical idealism, becos information, of itself, is imperceptible. Only its material media & effects are apparent.
Query; is coded info flow always top-down? It seems to me only one-way in a very primary sense. Info tends to flow from positive to negative; from where it exists, to where it does not; from ordered to disordered states or, if you like, from the unenlightened to the benighted. That seems a primary but not absolute rule.
I’m not into theology, but if info flows only from God to mortals, that would seem to raise the age-old rock of free will. Unless there is a two-way dialog, a two-way dynamic exchange, you land back with Calvinistic predestination of some form, IMHO.
Even at biology level, mammals inherit instincts, but these must be adjusted, adapted to actual local environments. Immature animals do this thru play, learning. This learning is analogous to human free will. Top-down instincts must be perfected by the actions of the animal itself. Human beings similarly must learn the wisdom of God, not abjectly obey diktats. That is not got by a word-by-word reading of the Bible or any other holy book. They are guides, not legal contracts or detailed specifications.
Commentators ‘interpret’ the Bible. This is bottom-up input. God can only convey what we recipients can understand. As we learn, we interpret more. Info flows from positive to negative, but cannot flow if there is too large a gap between encoding & decoding capacities. Eg., you do not try to intro 5-year-olds to quantum physics, & divine words are wasted on psychopaths.
Our lives & intelligence provide the bottom-up info flows, bridge the gap. And so it is in a healthy democracy. Government top-down directives & initiatives are important, but if gov does not heed the bottom-up flow of the criticisms & suggestions of the governed, democracy effectively dies.
My suggestion: info flows can be one-way or two (or multiple). There is a broad distinction in operation. One-way info flows belong more in the area of ‘signalling’ (animal or mechanical), where a given signal (sometimes coded) elicits a pre-programmed or pre-arranged response. Two-way exchanges of info tend to be dynamic, building to the point where quantity of info transforms into qualitative intelligence. Info is not intelligence. That only appears with the dialectic, or dialog – The Word. OGT
Mr. Marshall, greetings, I have a few questions.
1. Since you have proved that God exists, and apparently subscribe to the Bible version of God, can you briefly outline some of the day to day activities that those who get to live eternally in heaven with Him engage in.
2. Can you explain in what form we live in heaven, and are there parents, grand-parents, children, pets etc?
3. What is the fate of babies that die in infancy after being baptized?
4. Are we to conclude that heaven is populated only by Christians of your particular denomination?
5. Is Satan beyond the reach of God?
6. What is God’s day made up off?
7. What does God look like?
8. Are there toilets and kitchens in heaven?
9. What is the preferred method of travelling from one place to another?
10. Is there a standard dress code, diet, language, and culture in heaven?
Having proved the existence of God, and evidently desiring us all to fall down and worship Him so that we may be reunited with Him, these questions now assume significance, to strengthen a fledgling faith so that it can grow and blossom into a lifelong commitment and preparation for the eternal future you would have us believe in.
Respectfully yours,
Perrari.
perrari
This is ALL conjecture. Deserves much more treatment than I can give you today:
1. We have worlds to build, create and administer
2. I think we have all of the above. Think of the entire human race as truly and sincerely your brothers and sisters.
3. I know God. God would not send ANY baby to hell, baptized or not.
4. No.
5. No.
6. Presiding over all the universes He has created. Who can imagine? One thing I know, God is a hedonist. He LOVES pleasure. (read the psalms)
7. No man has seen God. Can’t tell you.
8. Lots of food. Toilets I don’t know
9. Don’t know
10. Don’t know
Dear Perry Marshall,
One of the most basic scientific proofs, that there is indeed a GOD, are the laws of inertia and the fact that everything in the Cosmos is moving. Everything in the Cosmos has been created and overcome by the only possible greater force there could be. Who is that greater force? GOD.
There’s no question about it.
Sincerely,
Peter Metzler
The whole fuss over the precise details of the Great Unfathomable – how the universe / God came into being – is not only futile but also unnecessary . The really important question is What Is The Purpose Of It All ? ; and the biblical Genesis presents the very clear , evident and important THEME of evolution regardless of nitpicking details .
Your argument for the existence of god seems to me to be intelligent design by another name, DNA is complex so it must have been produced by a complex intelligence. All you actually need for life to emerge is a complex molecule that can make copies of itself and also mutate, evolution will do the rest. How many countless trillions of chemical combinations where randomly produced in the earths oceans during the hundred of million years of earth history before life began. It is not necessary to add god to the mix.
Exactly how does the existence of inertia prove the existence of god. This doesn’t sound like science it sounds more like religion, I believe so it is true.
Phil
This is a mischaracterization of my argument. I am not arguing based on complexity. I am arguing based on code and known principles of communication theory. My argument says DNA is a language so it must have been created by something that is capable of producing language. This is nothing but simple logic and direct inference.
Your argument of countless trillions of chemical combinations is not science, because there is no statistical model to support it. It is nothing more than an appeal to luck and blind chance.
My data does not prove the existence of God. But it does provide 100% inference to intelligence being the source of the genetic code. Which is as close to proof as the scientific method is capable of producing.
Dear Perry
Regarding to “Evidence to existence of God” , I would like to remind that this is not a correct expression about God.
Logically, we can discuss about this, only when (at least theoretically) there is a possibility of absence of GOD.
I request that kindly correct your terminology, that is, we “notice God’s signs and designs”, not ” prove God’s existence.” I know this is hard to accept.
I remind you that referring to Godel’s theory you concluded that external truth is needed to prove anything. But you are try to prove external surrounding existence of God based on the very limited internal information. Ultimate achievement of this approach is that there is an external intelligent cause (much less than Omnipotent God.)
What you are ,in fact, doing is showing signs of God’s more direct intervention in the natural processes. The misleading thing is that usually (except for miracles) intervention is done through physical means, which makes us ignore the real cause.
Best regards,
Kooros
What would you do if GOD contacted YOU?
He has, and I usually thank him and ask for more.
Dear Mr. Perry
I am very pleased to find your interesting topic and website. I tried long time to find its. I am not native -speaking English, So sorry for this. I fully support your bright idea that the GOD exits in he world. The GOD is spirit, the GOD is an extraordianary SOUL.
This is an information for you. Now the GOD is really existed in the world. It’s unbelievable but is true. Please do come to prove it. I don’t ask you to believe immediately, but I would like to prove it first and after that you can show to the World that you are very right.
I have proved it already and tries to inform to the world scientists for 2 weeks already but no reply yet.
For the last 6 months I keep more than 700 A4 pages written by hand with more than 100 topics with me. These are the message from the GOD HIMSELF. This message is very important to all human being. Its says about the first persons in our Earth, where they are from ? where are they now ? Who are we ? where shall we go after death? what big disasters will be occurred ? how ro prepare for this? etc. etc.
The GOD can answer to any question. I still don’t believe my eyes but it is true.
Please do come to check. If it’s not true I will compensate every thing you pay.
This is the request of the GOD to find someone to prove HIM and to work with HIM for helping all human being.
Please if you love the GOD as you said, do contact me by my e-mail address and disccuss together about the detail.
Best regards
Keodara
Respected Dr. Marshall and all friends !
It’s very pleasure to know that all of you have a high interest on the GOD existence and the life of the human being.
There is one excited discovery. Please consider together. Sorry for my bad English
1.The GOD is a SOUL in the human body. So each person of any race any religion can be the GOD depending on the brightness or purity of his/her SOUL
2.There are two persons in one human body :
• Invisible person or internal person that is called SOUL
• Visible person : the physical body with hear and brain
So, human body is like a house and the SOUL is the owner of the house
3.Every time the SOUL always tries to communicate/talk with the body ( heart and brain ) but it’s very difficult for the body to receive the signal from the SOUL because the wave/frequency of the SOUL and the body is very different. It’s like a radio you can listen to any channel if you can find the appropriate wave ( sorry I don’t know the best word in English, I am not native speaking English ).
But there is a few people who can get signal from the SOUL depending on the brightness /purity of this SOUL.
Now there is one person can very easily talk / communicate with his SOUL and any SOUL in the world/galaxies every time every minute. It means that HE can communicate with the NATURE. So this SOUL can be the GOD. Any person can be the GOD if he/she can communicate with any SOUL in the world or galaxies.
Through the SOUL of this person we get the information from the NATURE :
1) What is the NATURE ?
The NATURE has its own law. The NATURE composes of 7 galaxies : the seventh is the highest , each galaxy has 12 planets, one sun and one –two moons depending on the galaxy.
Please be noticed that the galaxy here is not the same as our galaxy. By his SOUL : the planets of our galaxy are called only the giant stones
• Among 7 galaxies only our Earth has human being, no any planet any galaxy has. But the population of these galaxies are invisible for human being. Some SOULS of our people go to live there after death depending of the brightness/purity of the SOUL
• The NATURE have tried to contact human being indirectly in order to inform us about very important things that we have to know. There are many kinds of signals from the NATURE : UFOs, the rain of the stars from the sky etc. The NATURE wants to show us that there are something more or higher that the science can not prove and wants each person to take of his SOUL more properly
2). The Earth
• Our Earth was a small part separated for the sun
• At the very beginning our earth consisted of 4 components : soil, fire, water, no any trees no any human being
3). The first persons on the Earth
• There were 2 SOULs ( male and female ) came from the NATURE to look around the Earth. They came here many times but once they stayed longer, so the 3rd day these SOULs were destroyed and they could not go back to the NATURE where they came. They did not follow the NATURE law. ( they should not stay more than 3 days )
• Suddenly they became a very small cell, died and born many lives , became various kinds of animals up to being the monkeys and finally, became the human. For this evolution its takes very long time : there were 6 world floods that killed the people all over the world. But at the first time there were no human yet on this Earth. So, you can see how long these SOULs are on this Earth and became our Ancestors. Nowadays these SOULs are still on this Earth, they could not return back to the NATURE yet.
• After these SOULs disappeared on this Earth, their SOUL-parents in the NATURE has tried to help them by:
1. Growing the big trees so that they can use for their home
2. Growing some trees and vegetables so that they can use for food
3. Putting the red copper, black copper and yellow copper into the Earth to get the signal from them and being able to communicate with them
4. Using some extraordinary phenomenon : UFOs. Etc
5. Delivering one important statue to be the witness that the NATURE always wants to help them
• The NATURE has sent some other SOULs to be born in the human body in order to find out and help these SOULs to come back to the NATURE. In the past long period of time the Nature has sent 5 GODs one by one to find and help them but no any success
• Now all theses SOULs are in our Earth in order to help each other and help other SOULs of all human being to return back to the NATURE because this Earth will have biggest catastrophe
4). The life of a SOUL
• The SOUL never dies only the body in which the SOUL is living dies. One SOUL can have millions and millions lives depending on the karma or I think is like the DNA ( We can see the DNA but we can not see karma, it’s like we can see the heart but we can not the SOUL )
• One person after death, his body with brain and heart are destroyed and returns back to the water, air, wind, fire. The SOUL has to go somewhere to find the new place to stay depending on their karma :
– They can have a new born as animal or human on our Earth again
– They can to the hell if they have bad karma
– They can go the heaven if they have good Karma
– They can go to the NATURE if they are very good SOULs
Please be notice that any SOUL of the people of any race, any countries that have different languages and live in this world can communicate with each other very easily. But we the BODY with heart and brain don’t feel anything about this. But there are some exception, for instance, some people can notice or know a little bit about this. Sometime we say they are genius.
Please Dear friends ! do consider this information – information we got from the GOD of NATURE through the SOUL of this genius person I mentioned above. HE still alive and is pleased to work and show you the reality of the NATURE that we all here argue with each other.
I myself would love very much to have someone like you all to prove it , so that the people, especially the scientists all over the world must discover the supernatural phenomenon and the reality of all human being.
In brief, I would say the GOD is really existing , HE is a SOUL inside of one person who is still alive on this Earth. It’s unbelievable but it’s true and I request you and the world scientists to come to prove together.
God bless you all
Keodara
I’m not sure where to post this but I had a question after watching Perry Marshall’s video about “If you can read this I can prove to you God exists”. I agree with most of what he said but I have a question I was wondering if he knew the answer to: where does the noise in a signal come from and what creates it? By that note, where do random mutations come from and how are they created or by what are they the possibly result of?
Have there been tests done investigating what happens to the genetic code when a person does something bad, like say murder another person? Are there experiments along those lines you could direct me to? Thanks for reading this and I’d like to say you gave a very good lecture on the CosmicFingerprints website.
Noise comes from any extraneous effect. The noise you hear on the radio mostly comes from the sun.
As to your second question that would fall under the category of epigenetics. I have a suspicion that you may find research that confirms this but I’m not specifically aware of it.
Mr. perry,
i apologize you in advance if you get hurted by seeing these two videos
which i had seen and also checked, if they were true.
YES, they are true i checked for the references in the bible
and now suggest you that BIBLE(though the WORD OF GOD,in which I BELIEVE),WAS CORRUPTED.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GAr84cXhm8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D_JNRmnCFE&feature=related
AWAITING FOR YOUR REPLY.
See http://www.evo2.org/genesis1
Dear srinivaaz:
No offense but the skill and knowledge of the man in the videos you linked to has been weighed in the balance and found wanting.
In the first video the man claims that the earth was created on the third day and that light could not exist before the sun. If he had actually read the Bible himself instead of accepting what others told him he would know the earth was created on the first day and the plants and trees on the third. If he bothered reading to the end he would see that there will be no sun in heaven, that God’s glory will illuminate it.
To say that it is unscientific to have light without the sun is to say God does not exist. If God was bound to the laws of science, that Christians discovered btw ,then why call Him God, much less the Almighty God?
Correct me if I am wrong but there is not one single law of science or one major branch of science that was founded by any other than Bible believing Christians.
The men who gave us modern science believed God could act outside of the laws He created but choose not to as rule. The Bible teaches God is not the author of confusion, that He is logical and orderly and seeks fellowship with His children , to be known. The Biblical God loves all His children, The Jews, the Muslims, the Christians , the Hindus etc. and seeks for all of them to repent and come to a saving knowledge of His Son Jesus Christ who humbled Himself to be born of a virgin and spend 33 homesick years on earth without sin to become the sacrifice of the kinsman redeemer . The Qu ran on the other hand teaches Allah is capricious,that he is apt to do anything, that he is the unknowable one .
King James Bible Romans 5;8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Perhaps you would care to explain this to me:
Quran-10:3: Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and earth in Six Days
8) Say (O Muhammad, unto the idolaters): Disbelieve ye verily in Him Who created the earth in two Days, and ascribe ye unto Him rivals? He (and none else) is the Lord of the Worlds. (9) He placed therein firm hills rising above it, and blessed it and measured therein its sustenance in four Days, alike for (all) who ask; (10) Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. (11) Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower
Quran-22:47: A day in the sight of the Lord is like a thousand years of your reckoning.
Quran-70:4: The angels and the spirit ascend unto him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years.
And much more importantly please explain why Allah could err?
Sura 2 : 106
Such of our revelation as We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?
I have yet to hear a Muslim voluntarily explain abrogation. When a person unfamiliar with Islam is spoon fed the early sayings that seem to show Islam as respectful of other religions they are given a false impression that that attitude still exists. The concept of a capricious god is as foreign to Westerners as is the eastern logic that allows the belief in mutually exclusive ideas such as the
Qu ran saying in one place the Jews are Gods chosen and in another that they are the children of monkeys and swine.
In Western logic to claim mutually exclusive ides are true is a mark of insanity.
The second video was even more comical as he stated that because there are poisonous plants now the Bible must be a lie as God originally commanded man and the animals to eat plants and fruit. That logic barely deserves an answer but the Bible teaches that God said that before the curse so to assume those same plants existed in the same form before the curse is pure speculation much less that they were harmful, all that really says is he does not believe the Bible which is not news at all.
Then he goes on and talks about picking up serpents without harm or healing by touch as a scientific test of a true Christian. It is sad your teachers have misled you so because that is blatantly false!
God gave the apostles those powers temporarily as a sign to the unbelievers, not a litmus test for all Christians in the future. Sadly some Christians are confused on that issue but we are taking about maybe one out of every million Christians who takes up serpents so to try and say it is a rule for all Christians is too ludicrous to warrant a response.
Despite what your Imams teach you Christians worship one God . It may be that to humans the concept of one God in three persons is difficult to understand but God gave us all the evidence we need to know He is God and to believe what He said.
My question for you is since even Muslims believe that Jesus performed many miracles and His greatest enemies agree He lived a sinless life and Moses was given power to perform wonders and Daniel ,Isaiah ,Jeremiah and many others were given the gift of prophecy what evidence can you present that Mohamed was a prophet at all, much less the latest and greatest one?
Did he perform miracles? No! Did he live a sinless life? No. There is no record in history of Islam before Mohamed but the tradition of the Hajj proceeds him by 2000 years.
Jesus just exhumed himself of his future karma while in the body and soulfully sought his father on the cross, since his presence was always with him. Hence attaching oneself to him wholeheartedly inadvertently attaches to the purity of his heart and his awareness of a father in heaven construct.
Remember, though he did only good, he was aware of bad repercussions coming to him well in advance (last supper & Judas scene), since any good or reform is also bound to develop sinful thoughts in the erroneous ones. Jesus took to the cross to absolve sins of every one of the sinful ones who had sinned more due to his presence. Hence the statement- he took to the cross to absolve the sins of the whole mankind. It is only valid for all the beings having been affected in some manner by his grace.
Hence we have a growing crime rate and laws, though most of them remember the Lord in the correction facilities. We are not absolved of our sins, but we have a path in his name to seek redemption.
Recent finding in Israel have uncovered a tomb with the remains of Jesus of Mary and Joseph. I find this interesting, it in complete agreement with the life and death cycle. God didn’t resend His own command, that flesh will return to the ground, after the fall. The curse of death due to disobedience.
yes hello again perry I have you at a disadvantage I have been reading you for some time but you don’t know me. you must get that a lot. I am interested in this statement you made SOMEWHERE here when someone asked you about the possibility of an eternaly aspect to the universe. You told him to look it up on wikapidea.
first off this is a horrible source for any information that is not 100% imperical. Which this in NOT. It is religion as much as anything else to a lot of people because it is hard to impossible to prove. okay that said
her is the source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe
here is what it says
Current interpretations of astronomical observations indicate that the age of the universe is 13.75 ±0.17 billion years,[4] and that the diameter of the observable universe is at least 93 billion light years, or 8.80 × 1026 metres.[5] According to general relativity, space can expand faster than the speed of light, although we can view only a small portion of the universe due to the limitation imposed by light speed. Since we cannot observe space beyond the limitations of light (or any electromagnetic radiation), it is uncertain whether the size of the universe is finite or infinite.
I ask again what source do you have for your statement that the universe has no fixed size or mass. please make perticular distinction between observable and total universal size.
your stuff is generally good, but as a biology student I demand proof and this missed the mark.
thanks for your reply
I never said the universe has no fixed size or mass.
I hate when I do that. you are right you said that the universe has a fixed size and mass and that was the statement that you said could be verified on Wikipedia. very annoying that I waited that long for a response only to be defeated by a typo. any how the point we are trying to prove is that the universe IS NOT INFINITE. That the universe has a fixed mass and or size. Again what source can I get on this. as Wikipedia does not back up this idea per my earlier post.
You might try Hugh Ross’s books, or Stephen Hawking’s.