Today I introduce to you one of the most powerful science presentations I have ever heard.
I listened to Hugh Ross give this presentation on a tape while I was driving down Interstate 88 in Chicago one night. As I listened, light bulbs were firing off in my head all over the place.
So what’s the big deal about this? Here’s what you’ll discover as you listen:
-The delicate balance of vast forces in the universe, necessary for life to exist
-Why planet earth is so extremely special in its ability to support life
-The very measurement of the entire universe in all its magnificence, made possible only within the last 15 years
-A fascinating place where science and theology come together in perfect agreement
Now there’s one more thing I want to tell you about this talk: It was recorded in 1994.
Now why would I give you something called “New Scientific Evidence” if it’s more than 15 years old?
Here’s why: Because unlike most things that old–with only a couple of exceptions, the information Hugh Ross shares here has been shown to be even *more* accurate today than it was back then.
One of the hallmarks of a successful scientific model is that it holds up for years and even decades, even while scholars debate it. I’ve been following Dr. Ross and his work, and virtually every fact he discusses here has been further strengthened and validated by all the physics and astronomy discoveries in the years since.
On this link you’ll find both the audio recording and the printed transcript. You can read it online, print it out, listen on your computer, burn it to a CD, or download this to your iPod. Go here now:
https://evo2.org/hugh-ross-origin-of-the-universe/
Enjoy.
Perry Marshall
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Mr. Marshall,
For all your fans and critics, I would recommend two films as a starting point in order to analyze and generate their own conclusions about what they will choose to believe–Religulous (Bill Maher) and Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Ben Stein).
Both of these films contain valid arguments and can help everyone get a glimpse of what the other side has to offer.
Also, most people seem to be either stuck on one ideal or undecided about which side to take. We should all maintain an open mind and not disregard other people’s opinions… When either side asks “what if you’re wrong?”, it would be better to analyze the question in the format of “who has more to lose from being wrong?”
Honestly, I would not consider myself a highly religious person, but if I had to choose one side, I’d rather be wrong by believing something that doesn’t exist, than be wrong by disbelieving something that could possibly be true.
Now, to set the record straight, it seems that most people become engulfed in the erroneous debate about God’s existence; when in reality, I think they are attempting to argue the issue of Spontaneous Creation vs. Intelligent Design.
The belief in a supreme being is a secondary argument that eventually derives from the decision made in the previous discussion.
While in college, I asked a professor : What was at the edge of space – ” little white fence (jokingly)” His answer was, “There us no such thing as a straight line, only an arc of infinite radious”. I have since concluded that forth dimension is TIME. The biggest problem in understanding the UNIVERSE and EVOLUTION as i see it, is the tremendously huge distances and times involved. In the case of EVOLUTION, it is measured in Billions of years,
Earh was formed 4.6 billion years ago.
To put every thing in perspective, I have compressed the step of Evolution into a 12 hour clock, with 4.6 billion years ago – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – Noon
Life Begins a form similar to Bacteria – – – – – (3.5 BYA) – – – – – – – 2:52
Photosynthetic bacteria appear about – – – – – (2.9 BYA)- – – – – – – -3:48
Multi-celled plants & animals appear – – – – – -(1 BYA)- – – – – – – – – 9:24 *
Crustaceans appear around – – – – – – – – – – -(650 MYA – – – – – – – – 10:18
Fish appear around – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – -(510 MYA) – – – – – – – 10:40
Land Plants appear around – – – – – – – – – – – -(420 MYA) – – – – – – – 10:54
Insects appear – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – -(380 MYA) – – – – – – -11 :00
Seed Plants and Amphibians appear – – – – -(360 MYA) – – – – – – -11:03
Reptiles appear around – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – (340 MYA)- – – – – – – 11:07
Mammals appear around – – – – – – – – – – – – – -(213 MYA)- – – – – – – 11:27
Birds appear around – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – (150 MYA) – – – – – – – 11:36
Flowering Plants appear around – – – – – – – – (140 MYA) – – – – – – – 11:38
Humans appear around – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – ( 2 MYA) – – – – – – – 11:59:41
Religion appears around – – -1,500- to – 2,000 YRS AGO – – – -11:9999996
Respected sir. A super nature power has been existing in the universe.We all agree to that. But you put it in your own way It’s name is GOD.I want to know the exact meaning of your version of GOD.Could you please explain me sir
Sir, see https://evo2.org/hugh-ross-origin-of-the-universe/
yes a supernatural power really exists because it is impossible to handle all these proccess in the suitable manner for humankind by the nature
There is substantial scientific evidence to support Evolution. What scientific evidence do you have for a god or a creator?.
You make it sound as though this is a question of “evolution VERSUS God”. Is that what you are saying?
I would encourage you to read https://evo2.org/read-prove-god-exists/ for the 2nd question you have
For starters, please go to http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/change/deeptime/index.html
Secondly, read Stephen Hawking’s “A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME / THE UNIVERSE IN A NUTSHELL'”. No where in this book does he make reference to any god-like creator. Again, there is no scientific evidence of any basis for religion. Considering when religion began, I think it is all based on the fear of the unknown. Lets face it, there was a time 2,000 years ago when people thought the Sun orbited Earth, and even thought Earth was flat at one time. This leads me to believe that early religion was based more on the fear of the unknown.
John C. Burritt:
I quote Hawking, a Brief History of Time:
P 127: “one possible answer is to say that God chose the initial configuration of the universe for reasons that we cannot hope to understand”
P. 131 “it is very difficult to explain why the universe should have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us.”
P. 190: “Even if there is only one possible unified theory, it is just a set of rules and equations. What is it that breathes fire into the equations and makes a universe for them to describe? The usual approach of science of constructing a mathematical model cannot answer the questions of why there should be a universe for the model to describe. Why does the universe go to all the bother of existing? Is the unified theory so compelling that it brings about its own existence? Or does it need a creator, and, if so, does he have any other effect on the universe? And who created him?”
Not just one, but many references to a creator.
Hawking’s musings about God go both directions and he’s no bible thumper. But Hawking is also emphatic that he is NOT an atheist and Hawking clearly nods his head to the fact that the latest discoveries of science raise many questions and have significant implications regarding the existence and nature of God.
3000 years ago Solomon said, “Thou hast ordered all things in weight and number and measure.” This is the statement that eventually gave birth to modern science. Hardly a statement of fear of the unknown, rather a statement that the unknown was orderly, measurable, rational and discoverable.
Perry Marshall
I fully agree with comments by Alice. further I say ” who are we mortals to say who God is. As for theologians. Is thier God the creator or the created for them to have control over others? The best concept for my way of thinking comes from Freemasons. They regard God as the architect of the universe. As for the big bang theory I remain sceptical. What was the material which created the bang? Where did it come from? To me it remains an enigma, no beginning and no end, a physical imposabiliye and yet it exists. i feel the big bang theory s a product of a big ego
Hello all.
Just a few questions. Nothing against god. But why do we feel we need build churches that cost 36 million dollars? Do we really need a rediculously expensive building to worship god? Why do we have catholic preists that commit terrible sins? Are these preists the devils advocates?
I watched a movie the other night that I have not seen in a while. The movie was called “Seven”. If you have not seen it is a suspense, mystery, and crime type with Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman and Kevin Spacey. It’s a bout a serial killer that murders and torments different people for commuting the seven deadly sins; greed gluttony, sloth, wrath, envy, pride, and lust. A few of you can see where I am going with this. At some point in time in our lives were all guilty of at least one of these sins but you would think that the church would not partake in any such sins. Why do we see such sins from the churches. I guess maybe in being in this discussion that my issues for not being with god lies in the corruption of the churches. Who do you trust? I don’t want to expose my family to priest that may mollest children. Or do I go to the healing people, the evangilists. Ha! There’s about as much religous content at one of those places as there is in the WWF. I don’t know. Like most I wish I had more answers. Thank you all for listening.
Respectfully.
Rick
In Matthew 7 Jesus said:
15″Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21″Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Hi Perry
One question, do you know if Hugh Ross’s interpretation of Genesis 1 is similar to Gerald Schroeder’s? I’ve read Schroeder’s work but not yet Ross’s and was hoping to buy a few books by another author who shares a similar view. Also, what other authors can recommend in the field of Genesis and Science.
Thanks in advance,
Matthew
I think that Ross’s and Schroeder’s views are somewhat similar. I also like David Snoke’s book “A Biblical Case for an Old Earth” – excellent.
Thanks Perry, I will look into Snoke’s work as well.
May Yahweh bless you in your endeavour to seek the truth!
Matthew
Dear Perry.
First of all I’d like to thank you for the info you’ve shared. I must say the example you gave about the spray can do make sense to me, it is obvious. And when you start to talk about God in the way of reading a letter (the e-mails in this case) I agree that could be the evidence of the existence of God, but let me ask, what makes you believe in God as someONE rather than someTHING? That would be more logical to me. Some scientists say the sun has (for example) a few million years left to ‘live’ and than would explode to wipe out our solar system as we know it. But what we don’t know or don’t seem to know is, what will happen next, will there be a new solar system or will there be nothing and what would nothing be like? This as an example could proof the big bang was just a happening, not started by someone, but something, and that thing would be time, renewal coused by other happenings. You could see it like a chain reaction, or like the butterfly effect. I my opinion the universe is a living thing itself and if there’s something we should call God it should be the entire universe itself. The Bible says God creates, God loves, and watches over, What do humans normally do throughout the day. They create, they love (and hate), and try to take care for what they love. See, we create, doesnt that makes us God too? I think it does. To me God is the universe and we are God itself, all of us. We are amazing creatures on an amazing planet in an even more amazing universe. Do you think it could be that our single solar system is just a molecule atom or quark? Just a tiny thing of something great? Im asking for you opinion on this case becouse i think it’s intresting. I bet you’ve heard oubout the 11 dimensions don’t you. now the first dimensions are, length width and depth, then you have time and so on. But the 11th dimension is still not known, it exists but there’s no explaination for it. What if the 11th dimension it renewal, it sure would be a good start and end of things isnt it? imagine a computer screen, in the 80’s they were like green screens ans some black and white, now we have new computer screens, we still call it computerscreens, in fact, if you’d show a child a computerscreen from the 80’s and ask them what that is, they would say it is a computerscreen but it is completely different from what we use by this time. now may I ask for your opinion about this too, becouse these are just some theories I came up with and like to know what some real scientists have to say about this. I’d be pleased to read an answer back from you Thanks a lot
Sander,
The reason I believe God is a someONE not a someTHING is the existence of DNA. All codes we know the origin of are created by a deliberate conscious being who speaks language.
Perry
Dear Aditya Kresna,
Though I am a Christian I have a most assured witness that the Muslin are also called of God, though many would say differently I know for sure that Muhammad saw angels and received the word of God and a commandment to spread His word in a time when the true Gospel and the true doctrine of God was not upon the earth but men had became confused and all religions were preaching and teaching man-made creeds. I do know that.
The only point that is difficult for us to agree upon, more for a lack of understanding by the actual Christianity than by any fault from the Muslin, is the role of Christ. Because if Christ was and is Allah then we will came to the conclusion that “God manifests himself unto all nations and kindreds in their own tongue and according to their own understanding”. Jews have fought for Yahweh, Muslins for Allah and Christians for Christ, but aren’t these not only different names to the same God? Even Muslins have the asmāʾ allāh al-Ḥusnā with names for each attribute of God. Jesus, or Yehoshua from the Christians, means “the Lord rescues”, that is almost the same as Al-Muʿīd, “the Restorer”, from the Muslins.
I want to tell you this because so much has been lost in time and brotherhood because of so simple things. Piety, love unfeigned and charity were the virtues taught by Muhammad, by Moses and by Jesus, and what would they think of us if all that they can see are their followers fighting each one for the very same thing that the other profess?
I want to tell you that there is no truth outside religion and I would really want to talk more with you that we may comprehend one another and be glad together.
If possible, my email is [email protected]
The Biblical God versus the Quranic God are two very different Gods. The Biblical God’s Name is Yahweh, which means “I exist, to be, and I am” and His Name comes from the Hebrew words meaning “life” and “existence,” whereas the name Allah comes from the joining of the words “the” and “God” to mean “the God.” And Christ’s Name is not Jesus, but is in fact Yahshua in Hebrew, which means “Yah Saves,” and Yahshua is Yahweh as a man on earth. YAHshua came in the Name of the Father, YAHweh.
Islam speaks of “Allah, Muhammad, Mecca, the Ka’aba, Appeasement, Arabic, Islam, Tax, Jihad, Submit, Religion, Muslim, and the Five Pillars*” whereas the Bible speaks of “Yahweh, the Messiah, Jerusalem, the Temple, Atonement, Hebrew, Judaism, Tithe, Love, Choose, Relationship, Jews, and the Ten Commandments*.” Very differenct indeed!
*quotes taken from Prophet of Doom by Craig Winn
Dear Perry,
The actual science is still searching, wich one will cause the end of the Universe: The Big Chill or The Big Rip. Anyhow, both of them will create the next Big Question in my mind:
“What will haeppen with the Black Holes, or with the information…matter and energy will be gone, but once again, what about the information…?!”
I’m really looking forward for Your “Big Answer”…
Thank You
Dear Matthew,
Are you a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslin? How can you say that the God of these religions is different if all that is preached, the very essence of these three religions are all the same? You tell about names, but I would like to ask you if you really knows by how many different names God is known in the Torah, or in the Bible or in the Qu’ran. Do you know? The misunderstanding comes from a lack of knowledge about the role of Christ on his pre-mortal state and after his ressurrection. Who is the God of the Jews? Jehovah, the great I AM, who is Christ in his pre-mortal existence. Who is the God of the Christians? Is Jesus, who is Christ in his mortal existence. And who is the God of the Muslins? Is Allah, who is Christ in his resurrected existence.
How do I know that? I can assure you that it is not by merely studying or pondering, but it is based upon personal revelation to Prophets and Apostles of this day. I know that because Christ himself appeared to a boy Prophet on the spring of 1820, not only at that memorial day, but many, many times after. And not only to that boy Prophet, but to thousands who have been looking for him since that day. Someone stated that a man can know more by looking for 5 minutes into Heavens than by reading all the books that have been written about the matter. And that is true. There are living Prophets today that speak face to face with God and reveal His will unto the world.
This is my witness, that Christ liveth, and that He is the Jehovah of the Jews, the Allah of the Muslins, the very God of all religions, and the King and Ruler of this universe, to whom the Father gave all dominion and power, and all the authority of the Holy Priesthood, and to whom we shall answer at that great day before His judgment bar.
And this is not all. Do ye not suppose that I know of these things myself? Behold, I testify unto you that I do know that these things whereof I have spoken are true. And how do ye suppose that I know of their surety? Behold, I say unto you they are made known unto me by the Holy Spirit of God. Behold, I have fasted and prayed many days that I might know these things of myself. And now I do know of myself that they are true; for the Lord God hath made them manifest unto me by his Holy Spirit; and this is the spirit of revelation which is in me… I say unto you, that I know that Jesus Christ shall come, yea, the Son, the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace, and mercy, and truth. And behold, it is he that cometh to take away the sins of the world, yea, the sins of every man who steadfastly believeth on his name.
I am interested in the problem of gravity as a concept of ” information ” and its influence in the fabric of space and time. Also the topic of gravitational curvature of space and time, four and multi-dimensional space seems to be quite relevant.
Also few hints from American Scholar regarding the phenomenon of arts – music, beauty, love, empathy, altruisms and intelligence. Brainstorming for starters, let´s see where it´ll lead us to.
Kind regards,
Karol
Thanks very much for the articles you’re sending. I missed today’s installment, July 26, Manila time. Just curious. Would submit my comment after I finished with all of your articles. Mike Relon Makiling
ok. now this is a simple but logical question.
the existence of God may or may not be possible,
but either of the two..
what makes you think the Bible is the supposed “God’s Holy Book”??
isn’t there a thousand more religions aside from Christianity?
explain that to me. why?
and please do me a favor.
don’t base your answers on a book that only the believers such as you would find it easy to believe.
Kevin,
From your question, it sounds as though you didn’t listen to Dr. Ross’s presentation at all. I think it speaks for itself in terms of answering those questions.
Perry
Oh is that so?
thank you, I’ll try to go back to it. Sorry.
I kinda got bored when I was listening to him halfway through.
so i didn’t actually finish it. but I got his whole point anyway.
now this is another question I would like to ask.
If indeed there is a god/God (or anyway you wanna spell it),
what makes you think he created the universe?
so there’s a “beginning” of it all.. okay.
you’ve discovered that aswell as the measuring of the universe.
now here you are with the belief of an intelligent design.. a creator.
Dr.Ross also pointed out that this “being” is a personal god.
A thought of such an existence.
and with this, He is also believed to posses supreme intelligence and awesome powers that believers assume he had used for the creation event.
Suppose this God exists (suppose–because I grasp the possibility he also doesn’t),
and he is capable of such..
what made you think He is the one who created the universe?
His very own existence and being that He is–God?
Just ’cause He had the supposed capabilities doesn’t automatically mean He did the whole creation thing, now am I not correct?
Or how about the possibility that this energy of being you call God,
are also–gods?
what I mean there is, if a God is possible,
why not the existence of one more or another?
would that mean this energy so powerful you have started to call them God?
so that explains the people who worships nature’s elements and whatnot.
They also felt the energy you speak of.
and it is all around us.
weak and strong energies. But it doesn’t mean that these energies are also entities, now does it?
I know how the mind works.
And what people are actually thinking.
For this matter, alot are skeptical and alot too are believers.
Those believers, as I see it,
well most of them, see God as an easy escape of having to answer difficult questions they know, they can never be so sure of.
Now the skeptics, in general,
are not reasoning out and trying to prove you people wrong for the sake of skepticism.
we want answers too. and we are usually the ones who want to make sure of that answer. that is why we question everything as much as possible to give enough light to that matter and bring a clear thought whether it is possible or a fact that we should believe in.
I’m agnostic. and I see both sides of the argument as far as mankind’s aims can go, to be at a level which we should all accept ideas with an open mind.
Just because you cannot explain something precisely, it doesn’t mean that you should go with the easiest possible answer.
Because even so, it will not change whatever TRUTH behind it.
Kevin,
When you’re ready to listen to Mr. Ross’s presentation and stop making cocky remarks I’ll be happy to pick up this conversation with you. As of right now I have a hard time taking you seriously at all. I don’t think for a minute that you listened to any of this with an open mind. You didn’t even listen and I don’t sense that you want answers.
I’m not trying to be insulting, I’m entirely serious. If this presentation bores you, go somewhere else.
Perry
aw. You’re just afraid to face facts here, now aren’t you?
I’m not trying to be cocky here either but now I see you’re just avoiding what I’m trying to point out. ’cause we both know what the hell I’m saying.
and I did listen to Dr.Ross. Just because I got bored doesn’t mean I didn’t pay any attention. so don’t focus on that to make an excuse for not answering me.
This is what you are giving me. not reasons, but excuses.
and don’t preach here either just to defend your point ’cause your points are pretty weak. I don’t care if you delete this but I just wanted to make this clear and I only want this to reach you. You know everything I say has a significant relevance to the whole subject that you are trying to argue.
Do you understand LIFE?
Its purpose?
Life has only one purpose for men.
To please ourselves. Each decision we make. Everything that we do. All of our sacrifices. It is all nothing but to pleasure our own urge for being needy and wanting. That is why they say greed is the sin of man. and everything else is rooted to that.
Having said so, the nature of man, now we understand better why we find excuses to everything. Because we always want it our way.
Let’s go back to zero. empty your mind and your heart.
now hear this. What is knowledge?
it is the gathering of information backed by your understanding and ideology.
now what is information? (I’m being very specific here to get a clear point of this aspect). Information is the knowledge acquired in any manner; or facts.
See, it works both ways. But the point here is with a knowledge of such an information of something, that something has to be a factual object to be able to give or inform the mind its description. An idea cannot be considered as knowledge because it does not gather information needed for the understanding of the subject in the sense of reality.
An idea, therefore, does not give out information but only sends the mind a concept of what you want to see. Are you getting any of this?
God is an idea. Not an information.
Hence, God cannot be considered as knowledge.
We do not have any knowledge of God’s existence.
Whether you depict the birth of the universe in any way you want it to please yourself with answers we know for sure are only excuses for the mind.
All of this that you hold and consider as facts, are nothing but just a bunch of some other more facts gathered to become an information for the concept you are trying to prove.
With all respect,
Kevin.
Kevin,
I fail to find a single supportable fact in your response to me. It’s nothing more than a snide retort.
Everything I have said on this website is factual and you are welcome to challenge the technical details of any statement I have made.
When you bring some facts to the table, I might give some credence to your accusation that I cannot face facts.
Perry
factual, you say?
okay here’s the deal.
yeah, sure. you said a bunch of things that are actually factual about the universe.
but from that, gathering those different facts that we speak, only result on a conclusion. Not answers.
what you have stated in this website does not make it into a one whole fact, and that is God’s existence.
You only concluded his existence through these bunch of other facts that was never any relevant to the subject.
Hi Kevin,
Most of us have 5 senses and perceive 4 dimensions (three for space and one for time) therefore we might perceive God as an idea as you said. Someone has to perceive more than 4 dimensions and more than 5 senses to go beyond the quantum equations, deeper in the God’s consciousness to understand God’s existance. I strongly believe that we have knowledge of God’s existence because Jesus Christ perceived more than 5 senses and more than 4 dimensions… and He proved it to us with His miracles. He was able to go into the future for instance, because He said to Peter “ Before the rooster crows, you will deny Me three times”, He could perceive more than 4 dimensions because He could change the matter, I mean change the water in wine, bring the dead to life…, and much more, and you know… the people who knew Him and witnessed His miracles wouldn’t give their lives in the Romans arenas if they would feel that everything was a lie. Would you give your life for a magician who is pulling out a rabitt from his hat? I believe that the knowledge of God’s existence is embedded in our DNA like the knowledge of breathing without thinking of it, therefore most of us just believe it. Others are so in touch with this absolute truth, people like Perry for instance, that they try to prove the existance of God using scientifical methods… The appearance of Christ 2000 years ago shows the future of Mankind and its evolution to perfection. There is no comparation between Jesus Christ and those many prophets from the past because Jesus is by far more than a prophet… Jesus is the way the Mankind is carving, with harm to no one, its path to perfection.
these dimensions you speak of are actually the dividing of ideas created in our minds. The only dimensions there are, are the reality of knowing the truths and whatnot, and the deception of our perception of this reality.
and the difference between ideas and knowledge, (again with emphasis on the subject), is that an idea is created only in the mind (conclusions) by the description or information one believed in. and that knowledge is actually the “knowing” of this information gathered or learned.
Kevin said:
“Do you understand LIFE?
Its purpose?
Life has only one purpose for men.
To please ourselves. Each decision we make. Everything that we do. All of our sacrifices. It is all nothing but to pleasure our own urge for being needy and wanting. That is why they say greed is the sin of man. and everything else is rooted to that.
Having said so, the nature of man, now we understand better why we find excuses to everything. Because we always want it our way.”
The Bible said speaking of TODAY’s Atheistic and Humanist movement:
Jude 1:17-19 “But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Master Yahshua Messiah foretold. They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.”
2 Peter 3:2-4 “First of all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.””
2 Timothy 4:3-4 “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.”
In other words, in the last days (this generation living now because all the signs are in place and the 6th day since Adam’s fall is coming towards a close) we have been forewarned in Scripture that an Atheistic and Humanist movement will arise, that many of them will come out of Christian communities and they will turn to humanistic ideology, especially that of following their own personal desires. And in a great play on words 2 Timothy 4:3-4 labels these now unbelievers as myth followers which is obviously a joke on God’s behalf because Atheists label believers as myth followers. You can’t say God doesn’t have a sence of humour! But one thing these passages stress is the fact that these Atheists will seek to mock and scoff at believers, especially at Judeo-Christian believers. Go visit Dawkins’ forum and you’ll see what I’m talking about!
In other words, God is NOT an idea, but in fact very real. The evidence supports the words spoken by the apostles who lived some 2000 years ago. But let’s not stop there, about 3000 years ago at the time of David we have Psalm 14 and 53 spoken by the prophets, both again confirming this specific dramatic rise in Atheism we see today.
Who can tell the future like that from such a long time ago? I know of know man who can do it, unless of course inspired by Someone not bound by time.
So by using logic and reason I have come up with the conclusion that fulfilled prophecy at this level (I’ve only just mentioned a few out of the thousands) is beyond our natural scientific understanding. I also I happen to see Genesis as scientifically accurate when read with the understanding that God was talking about time periods (the meaning of “yom” has that meaning too) as opposed to 24 hours per day. I also happen to see the Bible as historically and even spiritually accurate. And of course I have a reason for Noah’s flood: it was regional and not global (again a Hebrew words meaning situation). In other words, the available evidence is sufficient for me to accept it., so much so that I cannot and never will deny it. I am absolutely convinced that Yahweh does indeed exist, and that all other beliefs and religions are false.
So to see this Atheist movement is of no surprise, we were told about it long, long ago.
I actually do not care if this surprises you?
but when using logic or whatever, or heck your common sense?
You can’t deny the fact that somewhere down the road, your belief falls too short.
perhaps even short enough to argue with your own mind.
If you are really willing to find these truths of life,
you must first accept that denial is not believing, son.
Although if you really do believe on the other hand..
we’ll just have to put it this way.
whether how strong you believe in something, it won’t change anything as a fact.
Hi Perry , I recieved your newsletters on Where did the universe come from. And like you do believe in the universe being created via a far greater intellgence(God). This could not of happened by chance and some artically intellegence had something to do with us all being here.
However has I have a interest in planets , stars, galaxies and the possiablity of other intellegent life forms some far more intellegent then us, I have to disagree with your assumption that our god created a universe that is 76 billion light years across. Has countless numbers of galaxies and stars and with that many planets just for us. Surely you cant believe there is nothing out there in 76 billion light years of space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgg2tpUVbXQ&feature=channel – The universe is a pity big place isnt. I dont think god created that just for us. We will be just a little navie to believe that.
Please excuse the spelling and slight mistake with the size of the universe its only 47 billion light years across and not 76 billion.Long day in the office. But would be interesting to hear your view on Life on other planets.
I must agree that we cannot know for sure if there are any other life forms aside from us in the universe.
But even so, given that statement, we also cannot know for sure if the supposed life form is indeed an intelligence far more advanced than us.
We cannot presume.
i was just wondering why my subscription to Perry Marshall was no longer active, or i havent been receiving the newsletters any more. i didnt unsubscribed….
please re=activate. thanks,
ralph ding
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