Today I introduce to you one of the most powerful science presentations I have ever heard.
I listened to Hugh Ross give this presentation on a tape while I was driving down Interstate 88 in Chicago one night. As I listened, light bulbs were firing off in my head all over the place.
So what’s the big deal about this? Here’s what you’ll discover as you listen:
-The delicate balance of vast forces in the universe, necessary for life to exist
-Why planet earth is so extremely special in its ability to support life
-The very measurement of the entire universe in all its magnificence, made possible only within the last 15 years
-A fascinating place where science and theology come together in perfect agreement
Now there’s one more thing I want to tell you about this talk: It was recorded in 1994.
Now why would I give you something called “New Scientific Evidence” if it’s more than 15 years old?
Here’s why: Because unlike most things that old–with only a couple of exceptions, the information Hugh Ross shares here has been shown to be even *more* accurate today than it was back then.
One of the hallmarks of a successful scientific model is that it holds up for years and even decades, even while scholars debate it. I’ve been following Dr. Ross and his work, and virtually every fact he discusses here has been further strengthened and validated by all the physics and astronomy discoveries in the years since.
On this link you’ll find both the audio recording and the printed transcript. You can read it online, print it out, listen on your computer, burn it to a CD, or download this to your iPod. Go here now:
https://evo2.org/hugh-ross-origin-of-the-universe/
Enjoy.
Perry Marshall
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Hi perry,
A noble job.I salute you for the same.I cannot uhderstand which is
other than science?To my best belief and knowledge(as it is vast}
everything come under science.The existence of god can be proved
not only by an arguement but by blessing of a strong guide after that
I have two questions, regarding Dr. Hugh Ross’ speech.
1: He claims that Judeo-Christianism is true because it mentions that God created the Universe outside of the bounds of space and time. He also claimed that other religions mention God creating it within the bounds of space and time. But, from my knowledge, although there are religions that mention God creating the Universe within time, there are also others that do not mention that he created it neither within nor without time.
2: Assuming that all that Dr. Ross has said regarding the specifics of life chemistry is true, that is only relating to life as we perceive it. Is it not possible that there exists a whole different mix of life chemistry out there? One that requires a total different inter-relation of chemicals?
1. I need you to be more specific about the claims of other religions.
2. Speculations about other forms of life are just speculation.
Dear Prof. Marshall, If you will please excuse me, I wish to just say in this context, that the Vedas, which are revealed truths seen by ‘Seers’ (Rishis, in Sanskrit), expound that God creates time and space in an endless cycle, and, between creation and destruction of unvierses and living/conscious beings inhabiting them, He (or That), “protects” them as his ‘lila’ (that is, for His fun) for a lmited span of time. The essence of reality or the Ultimate Truth, according to Vedic philosophy, is not this material universe, or even men, or animate beings (ecology comprising organisms including man), but a Pure, Absolute Consciousness, which has qualities of Being, Consciousness and Bliss (Sat, Chit, Ananda). This Consciousness is the only truth, and further, all conscious beings are just specks of the one and the same Supreme Consciousness. The Seeker and the Sought are in truth different, except due to the ignorance of the Seeker. The Hindu way of life takes up the Vedic vision of the Almighty, and has made numerous customs and festivals with the great purpose of instilling the truth of this Consciousness. Thus, every faithful Hindu lives a life with this knowledge, and to him it does not matter which Chatper and Verse in which of the Four Vedas (Rik, Yajus, Saama and Atharvan) makes this mention. Only a small section of the Brahmans (ones who undergoes the discipline of learning, and teaching, the Vedas or a part of it, in an ordained manner) master the Vedas sufficiently to be able to remember the relevant verse-chapter context for the details of God exposition, and to talk about it off hand, freely. Of course, while God as the supremely powerful, sensient, even loving, entity is propounded in the Vedas, even these scriptures merely marvel, through various speculations, at the mystery of God. Astronomer-scientist-writer, Carl Sagan visited a few Hindu temples without prejudices or preconceptions, to understand the symbolisms in the form of deities in various active roles, as duly installed in temples, which were intended to get across the “super science” (Adhyaatma vidyaa) of God and man, and their inextricable bonds. He concludes with an acquiescence, as it were, in the Vedic seer’s wonderment that the Brahman (God) alone knlows the Mystery of It All, or perhaps even He does not. He refers to a Vedic pronouncement, that Man and universe are just dreamstuffs for the Brahman, or God and Universe are just dreamstuffs of Man. Thus agnosticism, gnosticism, and atheism are all integral parts of Vedic wisdom, and ‘tolerance’ to all these systems, is the hallmark of that wisdom. Every man is characteristically in one of these schools, as a result of his Karma, with a freedom to reduce the effects of the same through education. This philosophy is vast, indeed. I am convinced that this helps one to be humble enough due to a sense of a supreme Almighty, and loving enough with a recognition of the diversity of human nature.
I thought I would share some passages from Sam Harris’s book “Letter to a Christian nation”. A very good read in a very small book, only 90 pages! Here he talks about Intelligent Design…
“Over 99% of the species that ever walked, flew or slithered upon this earth are now extinct. This fact alone appears to rule out intelligent design. When we look at the natural world, we see extraordinary complexity, but we do not see optimal design.
We see redundancy, regressions and unnecessary complications; we see bewildering inefficiencies that result in suffering and death. We see flightless birds and snakes with pelvises. We see species of fish, salamanders and crustaceans that have nonfunctional eyes, because they continued to evolve in darkness for millions of years.
We see whales that produce teeth during fetal development, only to reabsorb them as adults. Such features of our world are utterly mysterious if God created all the species of life on earth “intelligently”; none of them are perplexing in the light of Evolution.”
“Our own bodies testify to the whimsy and incompetence of the creator. As embryos, we produce tails, gill sacs and a full coat of apelike hair. Happily, most of us lose these charming accessories before birth. This bizarre sequence of morphology is readily interpreted in evolutionary and genetic terms; it is an utter mystery if we are the products of intelligent design.
Men have a urinary tract that runs directly through the prostate gland. The prostate tends to swell throughout life. Consequently, most men over the age of sixty can testify that at least one design or God’s green earth leaves much to be desired.”
“The human respiratory and digestive tracts share a little plumbing at the pharynx. In the United States alone, this intelligent design feature lands tens of thousands of children in the emergency room each year. Some hundreds choke to death. Many other suffer irreparable brain injury. What compassionate purpose does this serve?”
I contest the view that creation comes forth from a BIG BANG. Though, I believed theres a moment when all began.
If its from a BANG out of a highly dense singularity, the Universe will be composed more of highly dense materials and less of the less dense materials, i e hydrogen.
I think the UNIVERSE began not out a BIG Bang but out of a BIG Division. A BIG division of NOTHING. If this is right, the then the Universe can be simply described in a mathematical equation 0/0 = infinite unit. Or , the infinite Universe. Right?
Even the bible says so, Let there be Light, is the first instance of Creation. The division of nothing results in the radiation of energy, and time began, as spelt out, the first day. There are two instance of energy busrtsing out. The first instance in the result of the division of nothing. And, this radiation spreads outwards and filled the UNIVERSE with an energy field.
The second outbursts result from the transformation of parts of energy within this energy field into energy particles and they form the protons and electrons which then form the hydrogen clouds that get compressed by the existing energy field ( which is GRAVITY ) and then cause fusion and ignite the clouds into stars. Some outbursts of the stars are ejected out of the stars core and orbit around it. The nuclear reaction continued on the ejected parts , and being smaller in mass, reach end of nuclear reaction sooner, after converting hydrogen to the many elements of all planets.
Some planets spawn life. Life brings conciousness to energy. When life die, the concious energy, the mind, or soul or spirit, trespass to the realm of anti matter, and remains in same entity. As a form of energy, it travels at the speed of light, where the dimension of space is a spot and time is timeless.
There, at the realm of energy (physical) and anti-energy (spiritual), all the souls are together moving at the speed of energy (light) in a spot of timelessness and are aware of the presence of each others minds.
There, they elect a govt to rule over them. The GOVT Of the DEAD (GOD) Ya, thats our GOD.
GOD, comes forth out of life. Not Life conmes forth out of GOD.
GOD is careful over any planets that can come alive as even though it happens, it occurs very rarely. Then, without exception, planets that spawn life will eventually progress to a situation of civilisation that will self destruct.
While GOD seeks to preserve life planets, it has an adversary, which seek to destroy.
The most recent is the case of Planet EARTH. To save planet EARTH from self destruction GOD plan a message of LOVE and chose ABRAHAM and his descendants to reach out.
Will GOD succeed? Or will we self destruct? And, another rare gem of the Universe will not see its full life thru, like all the others before EARTH?
Hawkee I respect everyones opinion on this huge and never ending debate. I will say have you heard or do you know of the theories behind numbers and how they can be decieving the one and only example that I have is that; mathmatically two objects never touch because you can divide the space between them infinately. When you used the math to define the universe it sparked a brain cell or two
thanks sincerely Rick
Respected
sir pery I salute you for the chances you gave us to have a disacussion with you and share the thought regarding existence of god
As per my knowledge we should first realise and then discuss.My guru
transfer power to any one (as me and my family) to see the different
god and have coversation with them.My three children can talk to different god,godess,gurus,legends like jesus christ,profet mohamad,budhadev,anyone else.Hence it is first requireq to have empowered
by a perfect guru.
respectfully submitted
I like your style, throw in a little science for the layman and then say god made it without any proof, yet your sending out mixed messages.
Is the universe more than 5,000 years old?
Is science a work in progress?
Does science provide answers or should we ignore it?
You also choose your quotes carefully from some very well respected scientists (and aethiests). Maybe quote them on other things they say?
Thanks for your 5 emails, they were interesting but not informative. If anything they’ve reinforced my athiest views.
BTW, I’ll gladly believe in a god if the proof were a little more substantial. A god that was on every street corner 2,000 years ago seems a very benign god nowadays.
I can’t tell from your note here that you’ve read anything I said.
Skimming will not suffice if you want to participate in this discussion.
I like your style, but the premise is debatable. If I’m not mistaken, the premise is that a pattern can not emerge without an author. Well just to play devils advocate, I’ll say that there is a remote possibility that it can. Perhaps our universe came into existence because of a strange mistake. Maybe there is no purpose of this life and we are here based on chance, even if the odds are astronomically small.
Personally, I would try to prove G-d existence simply by noting that matter can’t materialize from nowhere. Even before the big bang, who set off the first spark?
Hello Perry,
I’ve read the email series and the ‘New Scientific Evidence for God’ essay and enjoyed them very much. Unfortunately, as much as I would have liked, neither has been able to budge my agnostic stance. The science is all fascinating, and the concept of three distinct entities: matter, energy, and information, is consistent with my own thinking, although I have never articulated it to the extent you have. However, where your discussion falls over is when you attempt to tie science with Christian theology and blurr them into the same.
The key point in the essay, the essence of it, the punch line, is that the discovery of time having a beginning is a proof of Jesus Christ as GOD! “if you prove that time has a beginning, that it was created, it eliminates all theological possibilities but Jesus Christ.” Wow what a statement! Anyone with any sense of logic or reason just has to cringe – surely you do as well? Just look at those words. Are we really expected to accept that NO other theological possibility COULD be consistent with time having a beginning? That Christianity is the only one that could POSSIBLY be consistent with this? This proof is just no proof at all – its completely empty!
Human kind is making new discoveries all the time. Why do you make the massive assumption that one of the existing theologies must be the accurate one (I know this is a red rag to a bull, and I am not really inviting an answer on your normal lines). Once the world was believed to be flat because it best fitted the observations of the time – we must always admit the possibility there are other explanations – explanations that better and more braodly meet observations. Simply put we don’t know what we don’t know, and must always leave the door open to new knowledge.
It is entirely possible, and in my opinion highly likely, that we have not yet identified the true theological circumstances relating to the origin of the universe and life. I agree with you that something has been caused, by some nature of causer, which began life. Where we differ is that I accept that I don’t know what this is. You call it GOD, but I don’t even use that word as it has such a strong connotation in various monotheist contexts. You know a lot of science, and attempt to link it all in with Christianity with loose and illogical statements as above. Parallels are drawn and conclusions are drawn about time and places and people in the bible, but in the end every one of these is merely spotting pictures in the clouds – its no better than believing in horoscopes. You can find whatever meaning you want in the words. And the bible is even better because if the meaning doesn’t quite suit then the Hebrew or Greek or other versions of the bible can be referenced for other various meanings of words.
I know I can’t convince you against your Christian beliefs, it would be just too hard if not impossible. Consider what you have to lose. Your belief offers you the comfort of eternal existence in heaven. Could I really hope to convince you to take up my world of unknowing and uncertainty? It’s a hard sell! In theory the other way around should be much easier. How curious does it make you that even given such an enticing reward you still cannot convince me and others like myself? Could you ever entertain the possibility that your monotheist beliefs are just as incorrect and delusional as we both know and agree all the other monotheists beliefs are? That maybe your mind is working in such a way that an insurmountable bias is created within you based on whatever formative or emotional situation has created your belief system?
Kind Regards, Bruce
Bruce,
A couple of thoughts:
1. I don’t expect you to buy into all of this in an hour or a day or a week. I think it deserves more thought than that and you’re welcome to take your time.
2) Honestly I think it’s worth spending a few weeks’ or months’ thoughtful consideration and maybe a few books. Hugh Ross’s books are good, as is Gerald Schroeder’s book “The Science of God” (Schroeder is Jewish). Yes I totally understand that when you read Hugh Ross’s presentation that you are referring to, your clutch is probably slipping a bit.
That’s OK. I would like you to consider taking a closer look. Reasons why:
-Genesis is the only ancient religious document that describes space and time as having a beginning and God existing independently of space and time.
-Genesis 1:1 accurately describes the Big Bang.
-If you read Genesis chapter 1 assuming that (i) “day” is a period of time an (ii) the story is told from a terrestrial point of view, the story matches modern cosmology and the fossil record tit for tat. The events are exactly in correct geological sequence.
-Communication theory says that the basis of all communication is encoding / code / decoding. All three are necessary for communication to exist. This is curiously identical to the three aspects of God that Christian theologians have been talking about for 2000 years. God = encoder, i.e. source of all knowledge; Jesus = WORD (Greek “logos”, the exact expression of God’s nature) and Holy Spirit = decoder. In scripture the presence of Holy Spirit is necessary for God to be understood. This is not unlike Augustine and Aquinas’ observation that in order for God to be LOVE, God must be plural – a community. What is a community? It is beings that communicate.
-I submit to you that all instances of communication are analogies to, or reflections of, the trinity.
-I also submit to you that all instances of evil, lies and deceit are corruptions of the reflection of the trinity.
-John 1:1 says “In the beginning was the WORD and the Word was with God and the Word was God…. and through him all things were made…” This corresponds exactly to what we find in communication theory, that words and language are the basis of all creative acts.
-Read my latest blog post at http://evo2.org/design-evil-suffering/ and decide for yourself whether the philosophical and theological implications of communication theory are merely a product of my overactive imagination – or if, in fact, my argument is sound and logical.
Lastly I want to mention that there is a LOT of information and concepts packed into these articles and nobody will fully grasp what is being said just reading or listening once. This website compresses 5+ years of my own research, not to mention that of many others. So while I understand some of it is a stretch, it may deserve some further scrutiny before you pass judgment.
I respect your path of seeking the truth and I wish you the best in pursuing it.
Perry
Respeted perry,
you didnof send the sixth part and more to me.Pl.send.
respectfully submitted,
Kishore
see http://evo2.org/bell-labs/
I simply love your mails, Mr perry.
However, there’s this thing that i believe;
God exists. but certainly did not create life.
No doubt God exists, but the thought that God created the galaxies and live forms are really doubtful. Humans; of most religion believe that after death, we would travel to this place called “Heaven”. If God created life, be it humans, animals, plants or etcetera, wouldnt the whales and tigers go to heaven after their death?
that is not my point.
If God created life forms, why did “God” choose the image of a human? why not versatile jaguars? why not swift eagles? why not choose a fierce tiger? why not a free dove?
why choose an ordinary image of Man who cannot fly, live underwater or survive on the desert without water or food?
however, Man can think.
i believe that God was born right from the brain.
no human = no God.
Here’s what i have to say to those that believe that God created life.
Of the billion galaxies in our vast universe, do you actually believe that there are only humans? i doubt so. of 6 billion people on Earth, there are animals, living microorganisms and etc. same applies for galaxies.
“Extraterrestrial being” does not define green little people with huge bulging eyes but refers to the term of life out of Earth. How do you know that God does not look like that? Have you seen God?
my conclusion. im 100% sure that God exists. but definitely did not create life forms. because if God did, i do not think it will look like a human.
end.
Man can move faster than the jaguar because we have built vehicles to do so. We can shoot the prey of the tiger, or the tiger itself, because we have built guns to do so. We can fly because we have built airplanes. Would you really choose to be an animal rather than a human?
Isn’t marvelous to be able to create as God does? or to communicate at a high level? to contemplate? to ask these questions in a community over the airwaves? Animals can’t do that
What basis is there to say that there are no animals in heaven anyway? God says he has a plan for all creation. And Jesus rides a horse out of heaven in Revelation, so there have to be horses in heaven. Why not dogs? or whales?
We are created in the image of God, male and female. Does that mean physical? probably not. It may mean the ability to create, to think, to communicate, to know God. We don’t know, but someday we will be face to face with our Creator.
God is creative – it is the essence of who he is. He is loving and yet he is holy. If you want to know God, get to know the Bible. It was his choice to reveal himself to us through the printed word. So read it. It will not only change your perception of God, but also of yourself.
I see your points but will have to disagree. Respectfully, the animals on this planet have done and can do equally if not more than a human ever could. Flesh for flesh fleas can jump 100 times there size, ants can carry 50 times there own body weight birds can migrate hundreds of miles and return to the same spot year after year with no radar maps or tour guides, the chetah can keep up with our present speed limit, the male moth can smell the female ferimones for miles, spiders cam build complex webs that, if to scale could hold and withstand way more than any man made bridge, but the ultimate question is can they fly to outer space? Well they have, in fact the chimpanze was the first known mammal in space. Do you think us humans would risk our lives before we expiremented first in fact most everything on this planet that humans use or test products on is derived from the animals on this planet including the oil in your car the wd-40 to clean your gun and the jet fuel to fly that plane. I think the animals have earned there respect on this planet. If it weren’t for them alot of us would not be able to survive in todays world. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else.
Sincerely. Rick
Btw no I’m not with PETA or the SPCA. just love this debate. Were all in it for the same reason, to find out why.
Sincerely Rick
Rick,
There are many impressive characteristics of animals and clearly they were created by an amazing God. My only point is that with our ability to think, communicate, store information and build, we have surpassed the innate abilities of all the animals. However, we also have the ability to destroy them along with ourselves. We were given the task of caring for the earth and we have not done a great job – although creation is here to serve us, not the other way around. Somehow, we have to live in a peaceful and productive relationship with the world that God has provided for us.
This is the setting that God gave us to grow and prosper and it is beautiful, strange, amazing, terrifying and wonderful. God is clearly creative and much can be learned about him through what he created, which is one reason why this website is so interesting. It is important though to worship the creator and not the creation. By the grace of God, he chooses to show us who he is.
Kristi,
I hope I didn’t come off as rude. I respect all opinions cause I have not made my choice as either atheist or theologist. And no I’m not SPCA or EPA or PETA. But I do agree we have surpassed the innate abilities of the animals. I just don’t think we could have made it this far or do a lot of things we do without their coexistance. Maybe animals are closer to god because of there inability to think. They are doing as god instructed. They don’t have the ability of worship and understand what a god is but they also don’t have the ability to defy god as humankind has. I think when Jesus said the meek shall inherit the earth maybe the meek are the animals. Maybe the animals are our answer. They have retained the innocents that I feel we have lost. I feel god is disappointed in us and if god brings a great flood I don’t think there will be humans on the boat this time.
Respectfully,
Rick
Hi Rick,
I don’t think we are that far apart in our opinions – I certainly love and appreciate nature (except spiders, mosquitos, etc). God created animals and man in Genesis 1 and then breathed his spirit into Adam in Genesis 2. He did that to have relationship with us – hence he walked in the garden with Adam, rather than with any of the animals. But he wanted us to love him, worship him, and be in relationship with him FREELY, so he gave us free will. We immediately sinned, and thus as you say, God has reason to be greatly disappointed in us.
He promised not to destroy us again by flood, but if you read Revelation, the whole earth is going to suffer – because of our rebellion. It appears that we are getting closer every year! Who would have believed 100 years ago that the Middle East would be the hot spot for the end of time? Now, it is obvious.
I am one who believes that there are animals in heaven, supported by the fact that Jesus rides out of heaven on a horse. How could he do that if there aren’t any horses in heaven? and if there are horses, then the whole animal kingdom will be there. God is not going to waste his creation – he says he has a plan for all creation.
We need to differentiate between the Creator and the creation, worshipping the former and taking care of the latter. We haven’t done a very good job of either.
Best regards,
Kristi
Hi Richard,
I have been reading your dialogue with King with pleasure. Sorry for interrupting….. All I want to say is, you may think that you have not made up your mind in order to be an Atheist or a theologian, I have a feeling that you are already a Christian. My supporting argument on this result is this, atheists are escapists. You cannot discuss God and His Son with them. They announce that they are atheists, but when you try to talk to them, they start their denial process in all forms. First they say, they have the right of free speech, right of free thinking, right of free choices, right of this and that, then they start their demagogical technics to the full and if you are lucky to continue the discussion they cut the conversation when the going gets tough.
My understanding of an atheist is they think they are too intelligent not to believe to an invicible God. They in fact keep talking about Jesus. I wonder why they can’t see their obsession with Jesus.
To sum up, I think Richard, you are too intelligent to turn into an atheist.
All the best!
I’ve been believing in god for some time.
Several factors have led me to disbelievement.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/nogod.html
For those who rebutts whatever content in this page has either nothing to cling to in his life or been brainwashed. We die, the end.
Dogs and animals dont go to heaven. What is heaven anyway? a place where you “live happily after?”
what’s that compared to a life sentence in jail on this planet?
i wonder whether if you die if you dont eat in heaven.
i wonder whether this place called heaven is larger than earth or not?
since it existed since the idea of god came out; billion and billions of people would have been living there.
if god exists, he would have appeared on tv.
why is the image of god a caucasian?
is this god a really sweet nice guy that lives for an eternity? Who has claimed that he will kill his non believers in time to come? wait, this is all from humans that want more people to worship a certain religion.
If jealousy is a sin and God is jealous, doesn’t that make Him a sinner?
(Jealous of other people having other religions.)
Why Would God Create a Person Who Would be Destined for Hell?
Would a loving God force people to spend eternity with Him?
You are comparing human interpretations with Biblical truths and getting confused. I recommend that you go to the source – the Word of God and let the Spirit of God interpret it for you.
There are horses in heaven – Jesus rides out of heaven on a horse! If there are horses, why not dogs? God said that he had a plan for all creation – why would he waste animals? There is nothing in the Bible that says that he would.
Jesus ate fish after he came back to the disciples, so his new body was capable of eating.
Why wouldn’t heaven have space – have you considered the size of the universe? space is meaningless to God.
Why would God appear on TV? Jesus resisted the temptation of proving himself by jumping off the temple (doing tricks), appearing on TV is another trick.
The image of god is caucasian because of the history of the church and the artists. We have no idea what Jesus looked like, because he did not want to leave an image that we would worship (there is a commandment against graven images for good reason – we are dumb enough to worship them!)
Covetousness is a sin. God is jealous of what rightly belongs to him. God is the only one worthy of worship. We are not God and his ways are not our ways.
As for Hell, we choose it ourselves. The most important decision that we make in this life is what we decide about Jesus Christ. God allows you to make your own decision – would you want it any other way? Your following question answers the previous one – God will not force people to spend eternity with Him and the Hell is precisely separation from God.
All your questions can be answered by the Bible. You need to spend some time to understand it. It is a worthy investment of time – there is no better investment of your time, as the payoff is eternal.
i would like to share this to my fellow classmates at my school, can i have your permission to post this on blog??
That’s fine.
I am so disappointed that some still cling to Intelligent Design and/or trying to make believe God had some sort of input on how the Universe was created. Just as the Catholic Church has suppressed scientific knowledge and discoveries to maintain their position of power over people, so do those that promote God as the creator of everything. Yet, those same people never seem to explain how this can be a good God after drowning millions in the Great Flood, killing the first born of every Egyptian house hold and turning people in pillars of salt. So now we are supposed to believe that the supreme being is a mass murderer?
Why stop at the great flood? There are modern disasters like tsunamis and earthquakes. There are things like AIDS. Any kind of God who exists in the real world presides over the death of 100% of all human beings.
If the theologians that say God kills some people because they do evil, in what way is this an illogical or implausible statement?
By what virtue do we human beings claim to have the right to say that God does not have the right to do this?
When matter exploded out of the big bang singularity where did it go ? As there was no space outside to accomodate this matter.
Hi Shaan,
The matter did not explode out of the Big Bang Singularity; the Universe just “appeared” to dimensions bigger than they are in this very moment. Singularity means dimensionless dot with an infinite mass (in other words “Nothing” with an infinite mass), and it is a way to point out a Hyper dimensional Universe that has its projection in our Space Time Continuum.
The shadows of our bodies on a flat surface points out that there is a plane that is contained in our 3D Space, and if you would live in that 2D plane you would not be able to experience the height, though your intuition might suggest that adding an extra dimension would allow you to jump and see farther away from the tip of your nose. I guess from an extra dimension point of view we would be able to see the beginning of the evolution and the perfection and everything in between at the same time. That extra dimension would allow us to see God in its plenitude, Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Perfection and everything in between (evolution) at the same time.
The Bible is the first to offer a glimpse of that extra dimension (Singularity) pointing out that God is Alpha and Omega. We experience the whole in slices day by day, for instance there is only 1 percent difference between our DNA and the monkeys DNA, but that one percent gave us Jesus, Einstein, Mendeleev, Beethoven etc… If in this moment our DNA is only 1 percent different than the monkeys DNA, I wonder what the human’s future would be like when the percentage gap would be so much bigger. I believe it is our choice to have that “slice” of the time line thicker and experience the future “earlier”, I believe this is what the Bible tries to teach us, I believe this is what Jesus said to all of us in that time for that society. I believe that following Jesus goodness would allow us to experience the future “earlier”, and have a better glimpse of God’s plenitude.
When the Religion and Science go hand in hand the results are blessings and when the Religion and Politics go hand in hand the results are tragedies. This is the way I feel it, and there are so many who feel this way North, South, East and West. Peace, Octavian (Tavi)
*when there is a start,there is an end*
when will the Earth doomed?
By Disaster?
trees are lesser and lesser when we feel hotter and hotter……
Please protect mother earth at all cost ! but some of them do not care at all….they juz act ignorance……but some of them tried their best to save the Earth by any mean nesssasary even they had to sacrifice themselves…. i juz don understand how to save the earth anymore!! † Amen† may god bless everyone of us and bless the next generation….toO
i don’t doubt the existence of God. but is God still actively involved in the affairs of man after creation. is He a God of relationship, who punishes evil on rewards good. because one assumes a deist position if one believes that God became detached from the world after creation and one views are skewed towards that of a theist if one holds true the fact that God is still involved in the affairs of man and affects the lives of men. Which of these groups do you belong to and why? since both groups do not doubt the existence of God.
I believe God is involved in the affairs of men.
hello sir,
thanks for the introduction. but there’s one question in my mind that why the earth is the only planet to support life. there may be one or more planets in the universe which can support life.
If we accept the theory that we weren’t created, then, we would be giving up the “inalienable rights” that the constitution of the United States expressly states were “endowed [to humans] by their Creator.” Meaning, that there would be no conclusive evidence to prove that any human being is entitled to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”
Therefore, non-creationists are expressly waving their rights by denying the existance of a “Creator.” Furthermore, they will probably fall back on the existance of “natural rights.” In which case, I would argue that most non-creationists believe in the theory that Darwin coined as “natural selection.” This leads us to the conclusion that, if natural selection is in fact the truth; then, the oppresion of the weak by the strong would be not only acceptable, but rather required of us. If “only the stong survive” is a veridic statement, then “human rights” are voided and null, as nature would intend for the weak to be wiped off the face of the earth.
Now, for the people who want to critique the above statements, take in mind that it is my personal opinion and just intended as an argument to be analyzed and not a concrete, evidence based proof. With that said, have a field day roasting my comment!
Sac,
Nietzsche espoused the oppression of the weak by the strong, much as you are saying. I don’t think you’re far from the truth here. The statement “All men are created equal and are endowed with certain inalienable rights…” is a specifically theological statement – on which democracy is built.
If democracy itself is held up as the highest ideal (and not the intrinsic rights of the individual), then the majority can vote to eliminate democracy itself and the strong can then oppress the weak. I don’t think it is possible to have a philosophical foundation for democracy apart from belief in God as the ultimate giver of human rights.
Perry
Dear Mr. Marshall:
I have a friend that I know since 40 years ago. When I met him for the first time, he told me he was an atheist, and he was very pretencious when he told me that he went to the dock and, looking to the sky he challenged the Lord saying something like: “If you really exist, throw me to the sea right now and kill me.”
As this didn’t happen, he stopped believing in God.
By that time, I also had turned into an atheist, but it was because of my readings of Philosophy and History. The last book about religion I read was “Why I am not a Christian”, written by Bertrand Russell. Although B. Russell claims for a natural religion, without gods, he is wrong in that opinion derived of the thought that religion is an individual phenomenon, as he believes that men’s hopes and credence may guide them to a moral and respectful existence.
Back with my friend, he was always arguing about the inexistence of God. His reasons weren’t based on Philosophy, but just in a “logical perception”. He lasted years and years and he never surpassed this point.
Now, 40 years later, I have told him that I am going to write a book entitled “Why you are not an atheist”. It’s obvious that if he has a reason for denying God without demonstration, for more than 40 years, then this proves that God exists for him.
And this is very similar in the other men, included Perry Marshall. God exists in their brains and in their writings, and in everything they do because there is a reason for them to claim the existence of God.
But, on the other hand, for me it is very simple to demonstrate that God doesn’t exist, (I would be very happy if I were wrong).
Look, one of the proofs for believers, whether scientists or common people is the Big Bang and the Universe expansion. I also know that the Universe is always expanding. I also believe that our galaxy comes from a Big Bang.
Now, how come does such an explosion occur? Well, as I remember, black holes form from stars that collapse. As they begin “swallowing” and absorbing energy for a while until they are enough “charged”, they eventually may burst again, forming galaxies. Scientists talk about primordial black holes and the thermodynamic laws for their formation as well as for the collapse of stars are well known now (Planck, Hawkins and so on). By the way, Einstein was wrong when he didn’t believe in the possibility of black holes formation, (and his opinions are quite a big important to support your claims Mr. Marshall)
Finally, What if I say that the Big Bang was only one of the infinitum number of Big Bangs in the infinite time? It seems to be a repetitive cycle: A Big Bang forms galaxies and hundreds of stars somewhere in the Universe. The big stars, say the hot ones, reach the proper temperature and thermodynamic conditions and collapse forming a black hole again, which will somehow reach the appropriate energy conditions to interact with another galaxies or begin spontaneously to burn with another big bang and so on and so on.
The process occurs with a definite amount of energy, and the gravitational collapse follows specific laws regarding the masses of the stars involved. This is undoubtedly an infinitum process, and these are the scientific inconsistencies of the proofs of god’s existence.
In my next article, I’ll attempt to demonstrate the same but using human reasons.
We know that there is not an infinite series of past universes because of entropy. If you see a candle burning, you know it was lit in the last few hours or days – it has not been burning forever.
Que1: What is God? Matter, Energy or something else?
Oue2:If we assume that God Created universe 13 billion years ago, then what was in existence before that? If time itself began with the creation of matter and energy, how could God exist without time?
Que3:What was the total purpose of creation of universe?i.e Why did anyone (or anything) needed to create the universe?Why was there a need to create intelligent life forms?i.e Why do we humans exist? Are we a mere product of the universe?
Que4:DNA is said to be code which came from a mind, as codes, langues, etc dont exist in nature. But our present languages arent a result of a day. Like human made languages, codes, etc DNA could also be a product of billions of years of evolution and adaptation. The first organism on the Earth need not have had a DNA. Later on the DNA as in its present form must have evoled, the same way for example our computer languages from C to C++ then JAVA, etc
So DNA need not have come from a mind?
I would be grateful to you if you answered my questions.
Aditya,
Student(11 grade)
Aditya,
Great questions.
1) God is not matter, not energy, not confined by space or time. God is Spirit.
2) Time is a created thing. We cannot imagine not living inside of time just as a fish cannot imagine living outside of water. But time is merely one dimension. God transcends ALL dimensions.
3) You are asking THE philosophical question of all time. I defer to the Westminster confession: “The chief end of man is to glorify God and live with Him forever.”
4) For life to self-replicate, there has to be a code. The tiniest cells are the smallest self-replicating machines known to science. I would argue that life CANNOT exist without DNA. And all codes we know the origin of are designed.
Sincerely,
Perry