From Evolution to Cancer: The Oral History of Our 7-year Journey

The book Evolution 2.0 devotes two pages to the subject of cancer and it wasn’t until two years after the book was published that this fact received any attention: It is not possible to understand cancer without an accurate understanding of evolution and vice versa. This has now expanded to five very exciting research projects. This interview traces the history of all of them.

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From Evolution to Cancer: The Oral History of Our 7-year Journey

The Engineering of Consciousness with Michael Levin and Donald Hoffman

Two leading pioneers in the field of cognition discuss the sea change that is underway in consciousness and evolution:

Michael Levin is 10 years ahead of multiple fields in biology, producing extraordinary breakthroughs in limb regeneration, cancer, and bioengineering.

Donald Hoffman is a champion of a new model that says the cosmos is consciousness first and matter second, not the other way around. The intersection of their ideas promises a universe of new possibilities grounded in testable hypotheses and solid engineering.

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The Engineering of Consciousness with Michael Levin and Donald Hoffman

Henry Heng’s Genome Chaos

When you’re trying to solve a thorny, knotty, intractable, “IMPOSSIBLE” problem, the #1 thing to watch for is:

Outsiders from radically different backgrounds, who not only all agree that the mainstream is hopelessly jacked up, but who ALSO came to identical conclusions – WITHOUT having ever talked to each other in advance.

In Evolution 2.0 I witnessed this 3 times.

1. Shortly after my book came out, John Hands released Cosmosapiens. John and I had never spoken or met, but reached nearly identical conclusions.

2. Radiologist Bill Miller, independently of me and John Hands, had similar realizations. A virology paper we have written together is now in peer review.

3. And Henry Heng came to nearly identical “Evolution 2.0” conclusions in his cancer work, mostly using cancer as his learning tool.

A couple of years ago James Shapiro and Frank Laukien introduced me to Henry. Together we founded the Cancer & Evolution working group. Henry is 15-30 years ahead of the mainstream cancer field. Henry in turn introduced me to Rafe Furst, a serial entrepreneur.

This is the story of Henry’s work:

Rafe wrote this summary of Henry’s model, explaining how cancer cells use “Genome Chaos” to skillfully evade radiation and chemotherapy:

Watch my conversation with Rafe and Henry on the Evolution 2.0 Podcast:


Why the Bible Doesn’t Make Sense Without Evolution

Why is there evil and suffering?
Why is Old Testament Biblegod so mean and nasty?
Why doesn’t God stop the injustice?
Does God even have a right to create an evolutionary universe?

Hear Perry’s 18 minute talk at the 2021 annual meeting of the American Scientific Association (, the largest organization of professional scientists who are practicing Christians.

Closely related: “Was Adam a real dude and does it really matter?”

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High-Speed Evolutionary Mechanisms in Cancer Cells—Why Isn’t Anyone Talking About Them?

A truck hit Rich Jacobs at 65 miles an hour and sent him skidding into the ditch. He had a concussion and was banged up, but the CT scan showed that he had thyroid nodules which turned out to be cancer.

Thus began Rich’s painful and frustrating and sometimes outraging journey with cancer. Rich has now done almost 3000 interviews on his Finding Genius podcast and we are close to finishing a book on cancer that I’m co-writing.

On this episode of his podcast, Rich reviews my PDF on the current thinking on cancer. He does a great job of summarizing my thoughts and findings.

● How we are losing the war on cancer and the war against bacteria.
● How the current misunderstanding of high speed evolution is keeping us stuck in the mud.
● How symbiogenesis creates and entirely new type of creature
● How bacteria rearrange their genomes to become more resistant
● How our environment, the effects of what we eat and drink and breathe can be passed on to future generations
● How we are “8 to 10 percent virus” and what that means for cancer and evolution
● How no one knows exactly what your microbiome (all the little creatures that make up YOU) does…other than keep us alive!

I appreciate Rich taking the time to give this lay person’s review of my PDF and helping me spread the message of the purposeful and conscious nature of cancer and evolution.

Why are stage 4 cancer patients not much better off today than in 1930, despite the U.S. government spending $250 billion on cancer research?

Why are we losing the antibiotics race against bacteria, with superbugs evolving in a matter of minutes?

In an interview with Richard Jacobs, Perry Marshall, author of Evolution 2.0: Breaking the Deadlock Between Darwin and Design, explains, “These problems stem from an inadequate understanding of evolution itself…A prime reason cancer treatments fail is that the tumor cells evolve at tremendous speed by some kind of self-governing process.”

Even in the most popular, best-selling books on evolution, critical mechanisms Read more »

Was Adam A Real Dude And Does It Really Matter?

If you ask most irreligious people about Adam and Eve, they’ll say that they are fictional characters in a fanciful story about an apple and a snake.

If you ask the people I grew up with about Adam and Eve, they’ll tell you that they were the father and mother of mankind 6,000 years ago and that modern anthropology is a big fake.

Neither one of these answers is adequate or even helpful to the strained relationship between science and religion. 25 years ago, when I was a 20-something discussion leader at an adventurous mega church, I asked a group of people (most of whom were not Christians): Read more »

Who Knew Water to be this Controversial?

Little do most people know that water appears to have remarkable properties that your middle school science textbooks told you nothing about, including memory and a “fourth phase”. This appears to have deep implications for medicine and biology.

Gerald Pollack maintains an active laboratory at the University of Washington in Seattle and is the author of Muscles and Molecules, Cells, Gels and the Engines of Life and The Fourth Phase of Water. We discuss a mere scandalous run-in with Nature Magazine that resulted in the demise of a certain researcher’s career.

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Donuts in the Oncology Ward

Richard Jacobs of the Finding Genius Podcast has written a new book called Finding Genius: Understanding Cancer: 30 Questions, 70 Geniuses, 200+ Amazing Insights in which he interviews 70 scientists covering 30 questions about cancer research overlayed with his own personal experience of thyroid cancer. Hint: The cancer treatment ladder is leaning against the wrong wall. Beware of donuts and snack machines.

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